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Offline bremraf

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Longbow advice
« on: May 01, 2012, 09:43:37 AM »
Hello fellas, I am about to dabble in the world of traditional archery and need some expert advice.  I am used to shooting anywheres from a 50-65lb compound bow, and I know there's a world of difference going to a longbow or recurve.  What do yall recommend for starting draw weight?  I have a short draw length on a compound, 27-28 inches. Is 50 out of the question or should i start somewhere around 40?  Thanks!
 
Oh and looking at very simple hickory longbow with arrowrest built in, and wood arrows spined for whatever weight I choose. I want to get back to basics, I'm tired of fiddling and tuning a stupid wheely bow!

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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 10:41:03 AM »
A very simple hickory bow would be a self bow, that is a piece of wood carved, tillered, and sealed in some fashion. If that is what you are looking for I would advise a bow made of Osage Orange, Bois d'Arc, or Hedge, all the same wood just different local names. O O is much better suited to bow making than just about any other wood, some will argue for Yew or Lemon wood but would be wrong. ;)


Next in line to simplicity is a Howard Hill style laminated long bow. Hill bows are primarily Bamboo and glass laminate with a simple broomstick handle. The world opens up to just  about everything after that. If you have the ability take the time to shoot a few different styles. I traveled to the shop where Hill bows are made in Hamilton, Mt. I was able to watch some of the process that morning and shoot several bows they had on hand. Each and every one of them caused a sort of hand shock that made my elbow sore as the dickens. These are beautiful custom longbows, not something made of chinese mud and paper pulp. Later that day I located a nice used J,D. Chastain long bow. It is what is referred to as Reflex / Deflex  in design. No shock in that bow, not a Longbow to a purist maybe, but to the untrained observer it is every bit a Longbow.


What I'm getting at here is you owe it to yourself to test drive what you buy. And yes I would say you want to be pretty near that #50 range. For general Whitetail hunting, at a limit of say 28 yards, #45 will kill just fine. Longbows are the least efficient bow so you will be shooting say 165 fps, not the 250 fps you may be used to seeing now. That arc will start getting you around 20 yards now instead of 33yds.


It's all for fun and a simple rig just seems more fun.
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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 11:13:21 AM »
It's all for fun and a simple rig just seems more fun.

Exactly! My oldest son is about to turn six and he's already a deadeye with his little youth recurve. I'm jealous he has so much fun I want to join him!  Thanks for the good advice, and yes a self bow is what I'm looking at, not sure if I will be building one or buying one.

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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 11:53:33 AM »
With todays technology, there is a plethora of traditional bows out in the market. I shoot recurve and longbow, each has its advantages and disadvantages.If you are going to be using the bow for hunting certain aspects need to be considered. Hunting in thick woods or thickets than you might find a longbow somewhat of a hindrance in maneurvability trying to get off a shot. Whereas a shorter recurve or hybrid longbow would tend not to be such a problem to shoot under such circumstances. Same case for shooting out of an elevated treestand! So let your hunting conditions dictate your bow requirements. Some say that the longbow is more forgiving than the recurve! I guess that is true to some extent. As mentioned before, I shoot the recurve and longbow, but also one of my favorites which gives one the best of both worlds is the hybrid longbow! This bow gives you the comparable speed, handling, and length of a recurve with longbow features such as a nice smooth draw and depending on brand usually has very little handshock( recoil) on release of the arrow.
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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 03:46:20 PM »
1st off I would start with a laminated bow like a Toelke Whip. Next use either properly spined aluminum or carbon arrows.They will be consistently straight for you during the learning curve/love affair you are about to embark on. I think you should be able to handle 45# to start. Personally I hunt with 53# BOTH FOR ELK AND DEER. Remember 45# at YOUR draw length and not 45@ 28".
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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 06:29:54 AM »
I agree with the aluminum or carbon arrows for starting out. I wanted to dive in head first and go all out and start shooting with a recurve and make my own wood arrows but after a little reading I decided to shoot aluminum until I got the shooting form part down and then maybe switch to wood arrows.
 
I think learning to shoot traditional bows and learning to deal with wood arrows all at once is too much.
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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 08:59:04 AM »
I suggest people start out with about a 60", 40-45lb recurve that can easily be found on e-bay for about a $100-150 You can learn to shoot and sell your bow in a year or 2 with virtually no loss of funds. A recurve would probably be a easier "switch to" for you than a longbow. You probably cant go too wrong with an old Browning, Bear, Martin, Wing or Damon Howatt.

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Re: Longbow advice
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 05:13:34 PM »
So what did you end up with, and how are you doing with it?  Inquiring minds need to knwo!

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