NRA cites kindergarten killers, other violent video games.

[powderman]

    NRA calls out violence in video games, cites ‘Kindergarten Killers’  Published December 21, 2012
FoxNews.com     

•    Dec. 22, 2012: Citing violent video games such as "Kindergarten Killers," seen on a screen over his shoulder, NRA chief Wayne LaPierre addresses the nation following a massacre in Connecticut. (FoxNews.com)

  Citing popular video games like “Grand Theft Auto” and “Bulletstorm,” NRA head Wayne LaPierre decried the violence in popular movies and video games, saying that such “entertainment” is “aired like propaganda films on splatterdays.”
 
Following the Newtown, Conn., elementary school massacre, national attention has been turned back to the effect that popular but ultraviolent video games are having on children and young men like Adam Lanza, who was known by his friends to be a gamer. In its first press conference since the killings, NRA executive vice president LaPierre blamed not guns but virtual guns.

 

'There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting industry that sells violence against its own people.'

- NRA head Wayne LaPierre
“There exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting industry that sells and sows violence against its own people, through vicious, violent video games with names like ‘Bulletstorm,’ ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ ‘Mortal Kombat’ and ‘Splatterhouse.’”
In addition to the more popular games, LaPierre cited a game called “Kindergarten Killers,” in which a janitor goes on a rampage and shoots children.
 
“It’s been online for 10 years. How come my research staff can find it, and all of yours couldn’t -- or didn’t want anyone to know you had found it?”
The readily accessible game, programmed in Shockwave, was first created in 2002 by Gary Short, a 19 year old English student, according to a cached version of the ZSOA.com website hosted on archive.org.
 
Kindergarten Killers is currently hosted on dozens of gaming websites, which themselves carry thousands of Flash or Shockwave games, not necessarily violent ones.
“Isn’t fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?” LaPierre said.

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[Conan The Librarian]

Well, guess what, laPierre: There exists another industry that makes things with triggers and bullets that actually enable real life violence after the games demonstrate how to do it.

[Hairy Chest]

Well, guess what, laPierre: There exists another industry that makes things with triggers and bullets that actually enable real life violence after the games demonstrate how to do it.

Guns don't enable anything.  People make choices and it is our filthy media that is putting sick ideas and a violent mentality into people's heads.  The media is to blame and needs to be eliminated. 

[Conan The Librarian]

I like guns and I don't take that idea seriously at all. Sorry.

[BUGEYE]

I like guns and I don't take that idea seriously at all. Sorry.

You had me worried there for a minute..................

[Conan The Librarian]

I agree with the Daily Mail. Even people sympathetic to guns are going to think the NRA's response is crazy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251762/NRA-statement-Sandy-Hook-shooting-Wayne-LaPierres-astonishing-response-calls-guns.html
 

[Hairy Chest]

I agree with the Daily Mail. Even people sympathetic to guns are going to think the NRA's response is crazy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251762/NRA-statement-Sandy-Hook-shooting-Wayne-LaPierres-astonishing-response-calls-guns.html

La Pierre was great.  GOA's man Larry Pratt was fantastic also.  Go to youtube and type in Piers Morgan, Larry Pratt.  But before you do, so you don't damage the monitor, put on some very soft padded gloves.     

[buffermop]

La Piere is a sick man and should be thrown in jail""

[powderman]

No doubt that violent video games, movies, and filthy rap crap so called music is a huge influence on the mentally challenged. POWDERMAN. 

[buck460XVR]

Back in the sixties and seventies folks blamed the violence kids watched on TV as the main cause for our demise. You know, Matt Dillion shooting that guy at the beginning of Gunsmoke every Saturday Night. Elliot Ness and the Untouchables, Combat, Palidan(a knight  without armor in a savage land)........ just to name a few.  Wasn't true then, ain't true now. Video games and TV shows do not a heartless killer of children make. Much of what was said in that news conference today I agreed with. Some was pure fantasy.

[powderman]

Back in the sixties and seventies folks blamed the violence kids watched on TV as the main cause for our demise. You know, Matt Dillion shooting that guy at the beginning of Gunsmoke every Saturday Night. Elliot Ness and the Untouchables, Combat, Palidan(a knight  without armor in a savage land)........ just to name a few.  Wasn't true then, ain't true now. Video games and TV shows do not a heartless killer of children make. Much of what was said in that news conference today I agreed with. Some was pure fantasy.

 
BUCK. Back in the 60s and 70s a lot more people had God in their lives than today. Lots more 2 parent families, and fewer dropouts from school. Folks had a better grip on reality, and things kids brag about today were looked on as shameful then. The difference is God. POWDERMAN. 

[Ranger99]

the television and computer screens
are the reality for todays children.
they get parked in front of a tv
or computer and that's what raises them.
and the schools are merely a place to babysit
kids while the parent(s) are off wherever.
(i'm speaking about my neighborhood- these
folks here don't have jobs)
a girlfriend a while back would buy her son
whatever video or video game or filthy
restricted purchase cd he wanted just
to keep him from whining. i'll go out on
a limb and say that's a very widespread
situation.

[Hairy Chest]

No doubt that violent video games, movies, and filthy rap crap so called music is a huge influence on the mentally challenged. POWDERMAN. 

We agree again. 

[Old Fart]

Something that's kind of been bothering me is that so many people and kids are on mind altering drugs these days. I have nothing to base my concerns on. But I wonder if some of these folks have become detached from reality. I'm not a conspriracy guys but could see big pharma pressuring a cover up also.

[Buckskin]

Yesterday I renewed my membership to the NRA, while I don't agree with everything that Wayne said, I agree with most of it and I agree with the goal of the NRA and that is to protect the rights of gun owners.  We are in tough times ahead if we don't have a strong core defending our constitutional rights as Americans.

[buck460XVR]

Back in the sixties and seventies folks blamed the violence kids watched on TV as the main cause for our demise. You know, Matt Dillion shooting that guy at the beginning of Gunsmoke every Saturday Night. Elliot Ness and the Untouchables, Combat, Palidan(a knight  without armor in a savage land)........ just to name a few.  Wasn't true then, ain't true now. Video games and TV shows do not a heartless killer of children make. Much of what was said in that news conference today I agreed with. Some was pure fantasy.

 
BUCK. Back in the 60s and 70s a lot more people had God in their lives than today. Lots more 2 parent families, and fewer dropouts from school. Folks had a better grip on reality, and things kids brag about today were looked on as shameful then. The difference is God. POWDERMAN. 

Kinda what I was tryin' to say Powderman. Altho there was gun violence back then also and one can't forget the gun legislation brought on by the JFK assassination. I do believe tho there was a much higher percentage of high school dropouts then as compared to now. No GEDs either. Lotta things kids bragged about back then are things most are ashamed of sain'  now.....like their love of God, and family. As much as things change over time, they still remain the same.

[Redtail1949]

GAMES ARE JUST THAT GAMES. now if someone can not understand it is not real. well..that sounds like a mental issue. games nor guns kill only people do. i grew up playing cowboys and indians god only knows how many i have killed in my games of army and even gangsters.
with all the other kids that lived nearby i can not ever recall a time that any of us, after blowing each other up with imaginary grenades, or mowing each other down with our tripod mounted broomstick .30 cal brownings actually believed it happened. nor did any one of us feel a need nor desire to really hang the other as a horse thief.
i do believe that certain ages should not play some of the more violent video games but excactly what age i am not sure. i think a parent is the one that should decide that. they are the ones that would know if their child would have a problem with understanding that it is just a game. the angle of the games is just not on track as far as i am concerned. armed teachers or access to arms will be the best defense against anyone that would come to a school to do harm.
think about it. it is the response time to an active shooter at a school that will be the only hope of reducing casulties. most times the shooting is over are almost over in 10 minutes or less. response by armed officers usually is too late to stop the killer. so if a teacher or who ever is right there and can respond withhin a minute or so lives can be saved simply by intercepting the shooter and drawing the shooters attention to them and away from intended victums.  if nothing else this would give precious time for more forces to arrive.
of all things i have heard and read having a response on scene immeadiately makes the most sense. yes they could be killed by the shooter but they might just bye enough time for others to arrive and stop the shooter. time is simply the most critical factor in a shooting like this. if the shooter can go about his evil unimpeaded he can wreak havoc and mayhem in just a few minutes whether or not he has a rifle or pistols only even a machete. anything that prebvents or interuppts the shooter and allows time for others to arrive is great. more secure doors then runs into an armed person ready and willing to fight. that seems to be the answer to me. cost yep that is a real problem for small school districts however arm the teachers or school volunteers just might be the solution to that.
i would be willing to bet that any of the adults that died would have given anything to have had a gun or rifle in their hands to defend themselfs and those little kids. i would bet that even the most passive adult would not have hesitated to shoot that guy to prevent any deaths to the children. as we all know they tried to protect the kids but empty arms and pleadings were no defense. when the cops arrived the shooting of the kids was over the last shot heard was of the coward killing himself. too late to help prevent any deaths. had a teacher been firing at that sob they just might have ended his attack soon after he came thru the door if not they might have given others time precious time to arrive.
just my 2 cents