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High Standard Sentinel
« on: August 19, 2010, 11:51:06 PM »
I attended a recent gun show with the objective of purchasing a light weight, reasonably accurate 22 LR revolver -a woods-tramping "kit gun" kind of thing.  I was hoping that one of the vendors would have a Charter Arms Pathfinder, as that handgun seemed to be one that would fit the bill as far as having the features and quality I was looking for at a price I was prepared to pay.  Other options included a top-break H&R "Sportsman" which is something that I had a pretty strong desire to own when I was a kid.  I had thought about the Taurus M-94, too.  I was also open to something in single-action, like a Single-Six or Bearcat.  There was always the Heritage Rough Rider, sold for cheap at Academy Sports and Outdoors, just in case I didn't find anything at the show and determined that I couldn't wait.

One of the vendors had a High Standard Sentinel.  I had heard of this revolver but this was the first one that I have ever seen or handled in person.  I was immediately struck by "oh so right" feel of the grip.  The revolver was also suprisingly light in weight for its size.  It was, however, very nicely balanced in the hand.  It appeared to be reasonably well made, too, and was in like new condition.  Cylinder indexing seemed okay.  The revolver seemed to lock up nice and tight.  No end shake to speak of.  The cylinder itself showed no visible sign of wear from bolt drag.  The chambers and bore were immaculately clean and the face of the cylinder appeared to be the same in color as the rest of the part.  All in all, it appeared to have not seen much use.

I had no idea if the asking price of $225.00 was fair or not.  I didn't really know anything about these revolvers and didn't have them on my shopping list because I had never seen one in the flesh, though I knew of their existance.  I hemmed and hawed around, looking at other choices, but coming back the Sentinel Deluxe.  The seller said he would entertain offers and was willing to deal.  Eventually the price came down to the point where I couldn't resist, and the little featherweight wheelgun became mine.

My example sports a nicely finsihed blued steel barrel that is pinned to what appears to be a die cast aluminum alloy frame.  The frame is anodized in satin black and is of one piece construction.  The trigger guard and grip frame are one seperate piece that is "bottom loaded" into the main frame.  There are no visible screws holding the thing together, except for the screws that secure the sculpted and checkered walnut grip pannels to the grip frame / trigger guard assembly.  There is also no thumb latch to release the swing-out cylinder for loading and unloading.  Releasing the cylinder is accomplished by pulling forward on the ejector rod.  Depressing this rod ejects the contents of all nine cylinders in standard double action revolver fashion.  The cylinder itself is blued steel, fluted, and counter-bored at the rear.  The hammer is highly polished in the white on its sides with the spur being nicely contoured and serrated for slip-free purchase.  The hammer nose, spur, and back face of the hammer are blued.  The trigger is nicely contoured and serrated with grooves for slip-free use. 

It all adds up to a very ergonomic wheelgun.  It was the ergonomics that really sold me on the thing.

Ah....  But would it be a shooter?

I couldn't wait to find out, so it was off to the range........

I had a limited selection of .22 LR on hand during my initial firing, which consisted of 100 Winchester Wildcats, 50 Remington Thunderbolts, 500 Winchester X-Perts, and about half a box of Eley 10 X.

The sights on this revolver are a nothin' special blued blade front, with a square notched rear made of alloy that is drift adjutable for windage only.  Initial firing showed that the sights were correctly regulated for POI to match POA at 20 yards.

As I mentioned, this revolver is surprisingly light in weight, which makes precise shooting a bit of a challange.  This is compensated for by some degree by the nicely balanced feel the thing has in the hands.  Shooting off the rest, groups ranged from 2.75 to 1.25 at 25 yards.  Not surprisingly, the T-Bolts turned out the worst groups.  The Eley 10 X fodder shot very well.  I was content to accept 2" nine shot groups, and didn't really expect to see the kind of performance the revolver turned with the 10-X rounds. 

The double action pull was reasonably smooth, yet one can "stage" the pull if one wants to.  I was taught not to do that during my tenure in law enforcement, so I don't normally shoot that way double-action.  The double action pull was insanely heavy, however.  It is so heavy, in fact, that it exceeds the measureable range of my pull weight scale.  The single action pull wasn't in the tuned Smith and Wesson league.  It feels more like the pull on an old Security Six, with a hint of overtravel after the break, which takes 3.3 pounds of pressure.

As one might imagine, there were no FTF's and function-wise, the revolver was flawless. 

This is not somehting that will compete with a K-22 or Ruger autoloading .22LR pistol in a match.  But it is accurate enough to be entertaining at the range and is a fun little plinker.  I managed to kill a couple of squirrels with it, thumping the little buggers on the noggin with one shot each, at distances out to 20 yards.  I have about 750 rounds through it now, and accuracy seems to have slightly improved during this time.

All in all, I am happy with this little revolver and think that it will serve its intended role well. I'd like to have a dedicated range handgun, but shooting this Sentinel Deluxe over the past few days has me thinking about a revolver for filling that role.  I bring an old laundry soap bucket with me and dump my empties directly into it.  Unlike an autoloader, which ejects empties all over creation, cleaning up after one's self after shooting the wheelgun is a fast process.

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 04:06:37 AM »
I had one of those for awhile, myself, in the late 70's IIRC.

It wasn't a bad little trail gun, and serviceably-accurate, as you said.

For casual hunting/plinking, they great - but I don't think they'll stand up to heavy use, and I'd hate to have to try to run down repair parts or a HS knowledgeable 'smith today.

BTW - WHERE'S THE PICS ?  ?   ;D   ;D

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2010, 03:41:53 AM »
I always wanting one of those since my brother-in-law had one in the 70's.  It was a good little gun and as you said, it fit the hand well.  Congratulations on your purchase.  And don't worry about shooting it loose, it's not a concern.  I and my brother-in-law put thousands of rounds through his and it just kept on perking.  Enjoy that gun!  44 Man
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2010, 07:02:09 AM »
Back in the 70's I wanted a Sentinel so bad I could taste it  . Never got it but it's a great gun . How about some pics of the gun and groups . I now have a Pathfinder 4" current production and it's a honey . If I ever see a used Sentinel in any kind of shape I will get it . I am also jonesing for an H&R 999 6" as well!

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2010, 09:20:49 AM »
I just picked up one of these little jewels this weekend.
Mine is 4 in nickle plated in the box.
The original sticker is still on the box.
I believe it sold for just under $40. :o
I'll try and post up pics of mine soon.
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2010, 07:00:23 PM »
Howdy,
My dad served in the Air Force throughout the Cold War as a navigator on aerial refueling aircraft. He carried a High Standard Sentinal as part of his personal survival kit, reasoning that if the crew survived a crash-landing and weren't captured, small game gathered with a revolver and .22 Shorts would keep the fire going. They are great handguns. You got lucky.

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 03:54:37 AM »
I carried one for years as a young man. A 6" chrome Sentinel Deluxe. Wish I hadn't sold it off.

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 10:56:40 AM »
I bought on locally in a private sale.  6 inch nickle Sentinel Deluxe.  It shoot POA at about 22 yards or so.  Very accurate.  However, it will not fire in double action on about 3 of the chambers.  I assume there is a problem with the hand and cylnder interaction.  Does just fine in single action.  I can't complain, I got it for $100. 
 
 
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 11:06:01 AM »
Here's some pics of the one my dad bought new in the 60's(I think..maybe 50's) He left it to me when he died.. I think he said he gave $27 for it brand new...
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 02:04:03 PM »
Had one too, so far back I can't remember when.   Did anything I wanted from it at the time, as well as all the S&W kit guns I've owned.
 
I wouldn't under rate High Standard at all, they've made some exceptional arms for the price.   My JCH Model 31 made by them is still my favorite auto rimfire, still doesn't miss a beat after all these years, is as good as it was the day I got it new in '59.   So is the JCH Rifleman Senior 4X scope.   Not on it right now, lost the mounts years ago.   And haven't been able to locate period mounts for it.   Know newer that will work, but would prefer to find the originals for it.
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 03:05:32 PM »
Had me one serial # 1956950 if I remember right( got it wrote down here somewheres) It was stolen off me at a flea market in Poplar Bluff, Mo. 2-3 years ago..not long before Christmas that year :(
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 11:22:12 PM »
I bought a 4" barrelled J C Higgns Model 88 which is basically a High Standard Sentinel in 1985.It has always been accurate and is my woods walking pistol.It is very accurate and I find that the sights are regulated at 35 yards.I would never sell this pistol.


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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2012, 10:50:17 PM »
I just traded one off . It had a 2 inch barrel and was new in the box!!

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 09:14:06 AM »
Quote from: JPShelton
I attended a recent gun show with the objective of purchasing a light weight, reasonably accurate 22 LR revolver -a woods-tramping "kit gun" kind of thing.  I was hoping that one of the vendors would have a Charter Arms Pathfinder, as that handgun seemed to be one that would fit the bill as far as having the features and quality I was looking for at a price I was prepared to pay.  Other options included a top-break H&R "Sportsman" which is something that I had a pretty strong desire to own when I was a kid.  I had thought about the Taurus M-94, too ..... 

Great post and report JP!   Sounds VERY MUCH similar to my last gun show experience (too) last weekend!
 
Went looking for a .22LR 'kit gun' in something for $300 or so, and definitely not a Smith.
 
Observed there is a HUGE SHORTAGE of used .22 handguns, unless one is looking for full sized Colts, Rugers (autos) or Buckmarks.   This was at the Seattle show.
 
On the way home stopped at our local M&P gun store.  They have a Hi Std Sentinel they took in trade and offered to me for $200!  Still waiting for the BG check to run, before I can finally take it home.
 
If your piece is tight and CLEAN (despite how much previously used), YES you got a good gun!
 
I have learned the Hi Std Sentinel's are not as robust or durable as a M34 or M63, but shooting it single action can help wear and tear (on the aluminum alloy models esp, that sometimes have problems if snapped shut too much), as well as using the same [reverse] technique to close the cylinder as you do when opening it!
 
IOW, what I will do with mine when shooting it is I will pull the cylinder rod "forward" when easing it shut, instead of just mashing it shut [hard] like a Ruger or S&W would easily hold up to.  This kind of technique might indeed be unnecessary to some, but I want my $200 special to last a long time!  Also I will be looking for a 2nd companion Sentinel to serve as a parts gun if the need ever arises.  ;)
 
Usually my famm and I have relied on Ruger Mk I's or II's when needing a .22LR HG, but a .22 REVOLVER certainly offers advantages only a revolver can do!
 
I expect to shoot MOSTLY standard velocity all-lead ammo, but will test Stingers, Velocitors, and even the Remington Vipers (all for expansion).  I want this Sentinel for a 9-shot kit gun.
 
BTW, that Charter Arms Pathfinder is a REALLY GOOD and DECENT 6-shooter, but so is a USED Rossi 511! (poor man's M63  ;)  ).  The Rossi 518 is a damm anvil!
 
Of course a newly made S&W M317 (3incher) or M63 (both 8-shooters) are dream guns, but both MSRP at $780 or so.
 
Prior to that last gun show I was very interested in a 4in H&R 999 Sportsman, but will have to reevaluate that.  But the other 9-shot H&R models are ALL damm UGLY, sit really high in my hand and no longer on my list.
 
 

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 02:16:46 PM »
I really liked my Sentinel and regret selling it....  Yep, I sold it...  Shouldn't have.  It was a nifty little trail gun.  But a guy who collects High Standards offered me a lot more than I paid, and it was enough more that I went for the deal.  Regretted doing so ever since.  It wasn't like I needed the money, because I didn't.  It wasn't like I didn't enjoy the revolver, because I enjoyed it immensely.  Don't know what in the heck I was thinking....


Oh, well....  Now I have an excuse to buy another gun.


Think I'll get a Smith and Wesson K-22......


Or maybe a Colt Woodsman.....


Or....?


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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2012, 01:43:10 AM »
My mom has had one of those, for at least 40yrs.  I carried it as a teenager w/ rat shot in it, while mowing fields, to shoot rats and snakes.
 
Not sure what the sights are set at, but I know they dead on if there is a coon in the top of an oak tree.  Almost 40yrs ago, one night the dog was barking, my dad went out to see what it was all about.  Using an old Ray-o-Vac chrome flashlight (they were known for having such a bright beam!  ??? ), my dad see's a coon in the top of the tree.  It appeared to be a young coon, and having a friend that had coon dogs, my dad figured he would climb the tree, put it in a burlap sack, and give it to the guy so that he could use it to train his dogs.
 
Well dad puts on the tree climbing spurs, and goes up the tree with a flashlight, a pair of welding gloves and the sack.  Mom and I are on the ground, her w/ the pistol.  When dad gets to the limb that it's on, he turns on the flashlight.  In the time that it took him to get from the ground to the top of the tree, the coon has eaten vitagrow, steroids or something, because my dad figures out that that the coon is not an adolescent - it's a full grown boar.  Then - to add insult to injury - the coon has figured out that the tree limb isn't big enough for the 2 of them, and starts to come down the limb.  My dad tells my mom to shoot the coon.  She says that she can't, because she might hit him.  He says that he doesn't care!  Just for her to shoot! (It's kind of remeniscent of a Jerry Clower story w/ a coon).
 
Well - mom starts shooting.  She emptied the pistol, and hit it 7 of 9 times.  However - dad only had 22 shorts in it (mom didn't care for recoil).  Each time she would hit it, the coon would just kind of shake.  Ultimately, the coon fell out of the tree and died (from blood loss I guess).  W/ all of those holes - the hide wasn't even worth making a hat out of .
 
So - I'm not sure where the sights are set at - but I know that they are "minute of coon (in the top of an oak tree)"   8)

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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2012, 06:26:46 AM »
when I get back home (to Michigan) I'm going to seriously watch Gunbroker for one with a 2" barrel and round butt.  I really like those and it would mostly be used with shot so snakes down here in Texas.  44 Man
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2012, 12:48:39 AM »
 I've been looking for a nice one with the 2" bbl for some time now. My Dad's favorite handgun (apart from his 1911) was a Sears model of the HS Double Nine. He carried it nearly every time we were out in the sticks. Liked it so much he bought an identical one as a backup, which I still use today...







 It only weighs 26 oz, so very comfortable on the hip. I don't know what the short bbl Sentinel weighs but it must be substantially less..
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Re: High Standard Sentinel
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2012, 06:55:29 AM »
Picked up one myself in late summer at a local pawn shop.  Revolver looked like brand new, not even a cylinder turn line.  Shoots fine, but will have to agree, on double action, trigger pull is tough, but manageable.  My had a coating of dried gun oil on parts and I have been steadily getting rid of that, didn't know if that was the cause of the heavy double action trigger pull.  I feel like after a few thousand rounds, it will come around.

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2013, 03:50:53 PM »
I had a couple of bills burning a hole in my wallet a month or so ago.  I stopped at a local pawn shop on a little side street just to be passing the time of day.  I really didn't expect to find anything for the amount of stash I had to spend but "ever the optimist".

Lo and behold there in the display case was a 4" barrel HS Sentinel - in the original box.  I tried to hide my interest from the clerk by asking in a very casual manner if I could fondle the little revolver.  ;)

Upon inspection, the little darling was in about 98% condition.  The clerk said it had just come in a week ago and nobody had shown any interest in it.  He said most folks wanted Smith & Wesson or Colt revolvers and weren't interested in "off brands".

The price tag was $165.00 and I told him that seemed a tad high.  He went away and came back and allowed as how the manager would let it go for $150.00 cash.  I said throw in a cheapo nylon holster and we had a deal.

I walked out with a very nice revolver I had been looking for since I was a kid at what I considered a deal.

The gun shoots to point of aim at 25 yards and has been my constant companion while deer hunting this past season.   I even used it to put the finishing touch on a big ole feral boar hog that made the mistake of coming by my deer stand late one evening.

All in all, one nice little revolver.

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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2013, 09:58:33 AM »
Finally got around to posting this.....  ::)
 



 
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2013, 10:10:40 AM »
And My Buntline

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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2013, 12:02:02 AM »
In the May 2013 edidtion of GUNS magazine there is an excellent article on the High Standard Sentinel.  Holt Bodinson, the author, had much good to say about this revolver.  Very good article and I will keep my eye out for one at the many gun shows I attend.

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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2013, 01:35:17 PM »
Finally got around to posting this.....  ::)
 


Wow   what a prize....didja buy it new?
12g shortie w/chokes,Tamer .410,12g "Buck" slug gun w/20g extra barrel, 12g smooth bore tracker I, 45/410 w/22vp matched set, 7mm-08, .308 20",

my avatar pic is my 1960 Rambler I bought in 1972 for $175..6 banger 3-on-the-tree...drove it for 5 yrs  22mpg.. was "hot-rodding" (LOL) one night...tore out 1st/reverse gear. Drove it that way for 2 yrs(with no reverse and only 2nd and high)  Had to really plan ahead when parking.
sold it for $125
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