Smart guns...

[Shu]

Instead of insisting on technology to "make" us safer,why not use our brains. I drive a car that doesn't have smart technology. Yet cars kill more people than guns do.
 
There is no solid state tech that is designed to last thousands of years. Do you realize how many flashlights the department of defense tested before approving models to equip to battle rifles? Many failed under recoil.
 
I don't need a computer or circut board in my firearm. The smart part of a gun should be between the users ears.
 
If you want that trash on your gun fine, don't insist I put it on mine.
 
 
 
 
 
 

[mcwoodduck]

There seems to be a lot of jumping to righty conclusion on here. How come it has to be Right thinking and not common sense asking questions to your suggestion?  Why do you have to try to bully your way into winning an argument? I try to give examples of how the equipment could possibly be made safer, and somehow that gets transmogrified into me supporting disarmament The question is if you get the technology passed and some how we have another Va Tech type shooting where the actual mentally ill owner of the gun uses it, then what?  you are on the incramentalism march to taking them. . I'd just like to point out that, if no one ever tried to improve firearms, we'd all begin reloading by pouring powder down the muzzle. 
We had electronic rifles.  Remington came out with electronic rifles that no one wanted.  Some ideas are not improvements.  Sensor rings, watches and other items that would not allow a police officers gun to be used against him were turned down in the 90's due to costs and if an officer was wrestling with a bad guy the nhe would be in proximity and the weapon could be used, the other side was that if you took the battery out it worked like a normal gun. 
I understand why the right (how about sportsmen and gun owners in general, shouldn't you be concerned and not try to make us out to be some hillbilly wack jobs) is so paranoid about the 2nd Amendment, though--- you gave away the other 9 in the Bill of Rights with the Homeland Security Act.  Under Bush.      And all of the Democrats that railed against it voted to renew it under Obama.  So how is it bad under bush but so good under obama?

The liberals tend to think that they are smarter than everyone else and that once they have an idea we should do it and they seem to say a lot more about how I should live my life then how they can set an example to live thiers.  Why do you have to try to talk down to us as we ask questions of how your idea would work?  Why we should go through the expense, and how it would stop the violence like the Sandy Hook shooting?  I think these are ligitamate questions as to what it would do.
When we point out that when CCW is expanded in states violent crime goes down.  But you tend to want to control guns rather than allow more people to act as a deterant.  Do you think the coward that went into an elementry school with a gun would have done so if he knew the law abiding would not have a gun with in 1,000 feet of a school and it would take the police a while to respond.  If 10% of the population carried firearms then 3 to 4 of the teachers would have been armed and maybe one parent could have stopped the shooting.  Except that we had a 1,000 foot law in order to stop shootings, can you agree that that law has failed and maybe we should eliminate it? 
 

[Victor3]

Don't want one, won't buy one, will not convert mine to one.  Nuf said.

 Nobody's going to be able to convert existing guns cost effectively. Liberals seem to think it's as easy as applying a decal to the gun.


 Each type of gun would have to have the frame/internal parts modified/replaced to accept a custom mount for the solenoid/servo motor, custom grips to contain the electronics, etc. No company is going to make any money creating and testing 100's of versions of a 'kit' unless they can sell them for more than the original price of the gun. Many guns are simply not suited to conversion at any cost.


 Technical issues aside, what company would be stupid enough to accept the product liability created by multiple kit designs installed on USED guns? Not gonna happen.


 No, If anyone's going to have a smart gun it will be purpose built from scratch by an established manufacturer with deep pockets and a large legal staff. Lawyers, guns and money!

[Victor3]

Service life for solid state components is measured in 1000s of years.

 You're doing a fantastic job in exposing the average liberal's view of logic.


 Carry on...

[BUGEYE]

Service life for solid state components is measured in 1000s of years.

 You're doing a fantastic job in exposing the average liberal's view of logic.


 Carry on...

[SHOOTALL]

Ok lets install a solid state divice in all agressive felons and all mentaly ill that have shown signs of violence or those taking drugs that ccould cause them to turn violent. This divive should be able to track them and shut them down if nessary. Maybe the divice could be made to release a drug that would clam them or cause them to go to sleep. It would alert police and emg. to their location and need for help. It could also ber used for people with other problems like those who wander off etc. A lock on braclet might work. With an alert sent if the person goes near a gun shop or such .

[Empty Quiver]

Ok lets install a solid state divice in all agressive felons and all mentaly ill that have shown signs of violence or those taking drugs that ccould cause them to turn violent. This divive should be able to track them and shut them down if nessary. Maybe the divice could be made to release a drug that would clam them or cause them to go to sleep. It would alert police and emg. to their location and need for help. It could also ber used for people with other problems like those who wander off etc. A lock on braclet might work. With an alert sent if the person goes near a gun shop or such .

An Extra Strength Tylenol size C-4 charge located at the brain stem hooked to a defibrilator type remote detonator?    Something akin to a fire alarm box located at key locations throughout schools. Pull the alarm and a signal would be transmitted to the implanted detonator box.
 
I like my idea. All in favor say ooh ra.

[SHOOTALL]

sounds good !

[ironglow]

As American citizens we should not even be talking about the "compromises" to our guns we are "willing' to make.  That is ridiculous talk..those  lefty gun-grabbers will never quit unless or until they take them all.
   We should hold the constitution and the Bill of Rights..and not give the gun grabbers ANYTHING FOR FREE.

[Conan The Librarian]

I've never been scared of a gun. Only scared of what the person with the gun was going to do with it.

[BUGEYE]

OOH RA!!!!

[ironglow]

As gun owners and Americans we should decide if Obama is correct or if the NRA is correct.  I have been an American all my life, and a gun owner almost that long...but I do wonder about him!..
  B Hussein seems to think that if we believe firmly in the Bill of Rights.. especially ..Article II..  we are "absolutists"..as if there is something wrong with that.  I suggest we should be absolutists when it comes to the constitution..esp the Bill of Rights..  Our fouinding fathers were absolutists..  Here, Wayne LaPierre explains the crux of the debate and the ignorance of politicians who don't know "leade" from "headspace"..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qGDqFMP7sYQ#!
 
  LaPierre explains quite logically....Obama wants all guns registered and entered on a federal data bank.  There are only two reasons why the government wants our guns on a data bank...so they can either "tax them" or "take them"..
   Logic, history and common sense all vindicate his claim!