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N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« on: January 31, 2013, 02:30:20 AM »
New England fishermen say new regulations may lead to collapse of the industry  Published January 31, 2013
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  •    Jan. 30, 2013: Jim Weinberg, left, and Capt. Peter DeCola of the First U.S. Coast Guard District in Boston, right, confer during during the New England Fishery Management Council meeting in Portsmouth, N.H. (ap)
  PORTSMOUTH, N.H. –  Minutes after New England fishery managers took a vote that cast doubt on the historic industry's future, the prospects most clear to Gloucester fishermen Paul Vitale were his own.
"I'm bankrupt. That's it," said the 40-year-old father of three. "I'm all done. The boat's going up for sale."
The New England Fishery Management Council on Wednesday approved a year-to-year cut of 77 percent on the Gulf of Maine cod limit and 61 percent for Georges Bank cod.
The cuts come on top of a slew of other reductions, ranging from 10 to 71 percent, on the catch of other bottom-dwelling groundfish species, such as haddock and flounder.
Fishermen say now they're staring at industry collapse because they've been left with far too few fish for most boats to make a living.
 
"We are headed down the wrong course here, of exterminating the inshore fleet, for no good reason," said David Goethel, a New Hampshire fisherman and council member.
The cuts, in effect May 1, are expected to be backed by federal managers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA's top federal fisheries regulator, John Bullard, acknowledged the reductions will be devastating. But he said the fish stocks are struggling and the industry's steady, excruciating decline must be reversed.
"The first thing we have to do is put denial behind us," he said.
 
The cuts hit an industry that was crucial to the nation's early economy and remains imbued with the risk and romance of man versus nature -- depicted in the famous "Man at the Wheel" statue in Gloucester of a fisherman facing the sea.
The new low limits reduce the cod catch to just a fraction of what it once was and prevent fishermen from landing more plentiful species, such as haddock and pollock. That's because fishermen can't pull up the healthier groundfish without catching too much of the cod that swim among them.
An economic analysis by the council projected that the cuts would reduce overall groundfish revenues by 33 percent, from about $90 million in 2011 to about $60 million in 2013. But fishermen said the projection is far too optimistic.
 
"It's fantasy. ... I mean, I'd rather go to Disney World. I've got a better chance of meeting Peter Pan," said Goethel, who predicted the entire New Hamsphire fleet would be eliminated.
Fishermen have consistently disputed the accuracy of the science that drives regulation and that indicates the stocks are in bad shape. And they noted the industry has generally fished at or below levels recommended by science in recent years, but the advice has proven wrong.
 
"I've done everything they told me to do, and all of the sudden I come up here to a meeting today, and they're going to send me in a coffin out of this place," said New Bedford fisherman Carlos Rafael, who said he may have to sideline half of his fleet of 20 groundfish boats.
Peter Shelley of the Conservation Law Foundation said the council had no choice but to cut catch limits drastically so struggling stocks can recover.
"A far worse result would be to fail to take the kind of action that would secure a future for this fishery," he said.
 
Maggie Raymond of the Associated Fisheries of Maine said some boats in her group would try to hang on by targeting healthy, but less valuable, stocks of redfish and haddock. Others won't make it, she said.
As the fleet shrinks, related jobs, such as fish processors, will be lost and infrastructure will disappear from the valuable waterfront properties in local ports, she said. That won't return quickly, if ever, Raymond said.
Gib Brogan of the environmental group Oceana said too many boats have been chasing too few fish for too long. Industry downsizing will is actually "right-sizing," he said, and when those fish come back in greater numbers, the industry will figure out how to benefit.
"If there are fish to catch, there will be someone out there catching it," Brogan said.

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 02:49:05 AM »
If you want to eat fish, you'll have to catch it yourself.
I wonder how hussein will control private fishing??
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Re: N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2013, 07:26:54 AM »
BUGEYE. This all part of husseins goal to destroy us.  POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2013, 09:35:29 AM »
fish farming is a good alternative. but a different lifestyle. i wonder what the possibilities are for that there?
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Re: N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2013, 09:42:28 AM »
Powderman, is it your position that the fish stocks are doing great and we should continue to have sizable catch limits forever?
 

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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 10:04:10 AM »
Powderman, is it your position that the fish stocks are doing great and we should continue to have sizable catch limits forever?
Off the Georgia coast, red snapper were doing great.  great recruitment, everybody happy.
along came the feds and shut most of the sport fishing industry on the flimsy excuse that red snappers were disappearing.
http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2010-03-04/story/fisheries_council_says_red_snapper_fishing_could_be_banned_in_georgia_
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Re: N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 10:37:30 AM »
This seems to be about New England cod?  Kansas crappie populations are doing fantastic though!

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2013, 11:02:34 AM »
This seems to be about New England cod?  Kansas crappie populations are doing fantastic though!
Okay, I was off topic a little.  just pointing out that sometimes the people doing the fishing know best.
good grief.
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Re: N England fishermen say NEW fed regs bankrupting them.
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 05:38:53 AM »
 The fishermen have done it to themselves. The do not know what is best as they are blinded by their own avarice. Their tunnel vision focuses on their harvests and disregards the health of the resource. All they care about is what is in it for them.

 
In the 1930's California's pilchard (sardine) fishery was the world's largest fishery of any kind. It is dead and thousands of jobs lost, all the victim of unrestrained personal greed. Last year America's last sardine cannery closed and we are importing canned crap from southeast asia and South America. Canada's cod fishery was closed several years ago.

 
One sign of a fishery in distress is that the avrage size, not the catch tonnage, of the fish being caught begins to decline. We have seen several fisheries brought near collapse, striped bass, salmon, sturgeon, lake trout, swordfish, etc.

 
Management works. Good examples are lobsters, halibut, fur seals.

 
Consider the days before professional game management when bison, elk, moose, deer, bear, antelope, waterfowl, etc were devastated. Deer were not pests like they are today they were curiosities. The same happened to our forests.

 
Law of the Commons: “That which belongs to all belongs to no one.”

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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 06:24:08 AM »
DUK. I guess my position is that I simply distrust anything and everything having to do with the liar in the whitehouse. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2013, 04:03:22 PM »
Don't worry. Paranoid psychosis is a recognized mental disorder and there is help for it.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2013, 06:44:56 PM »
do the foreign fishing boats run amok
there like they do in the gulf of mexico?
maybe that's part of the problem.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 07:38:15 PM »
They run amok there just like everone runs amok everywhere including our own boats. The  biggest fishing port in US is San Pedro yet almost none of their predominantly tuna catch is caught in US waters.

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 04:20:10 AM »
I read that Russian trawlers are allowed in OUR waters and they fish heavily. If true, why are they allowed to do this, THAT could be the problem. Seems American waters should be for AMERICAN fishermen. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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