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Offline Dali Llama

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Democrats and guns
« on: February 17, 2004, 02:28:14 AM »
Democrats and guns

    Aside from same-sex "marriage," there is at least one other cultural issue no Democrat running against President Bush wants to touch: gun control. Bill Clinton and Al Gore both tried to avoid picking up this political hot potato in their 1992, 1996 and 2000 presidential campaigns because gun control is unpopular in swing states such as Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, and can harm a candidate's chances across the South. One consultant who worked for Wesley Clark's southern campaign said the best thing liberals can do during a gun-control debate is "change the subject." Not all Democrats agree, and some legislators on Capitol Hill plan to push gun-control measures up until the November election.
    One bill that guarantees an eventual showdown is the so-called Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, which expires in six months. Senate Democrats are offering two updated versions; both of which are tougher than the current restrictions. One option makes a ban permanent; the other outlaws even more types of arms, ammunition and equipment. Congressional leadership sources told us that House Majority Leader Tom DeLay does not plan to let a new ban or renewal of the current ban see the light of day in the lower chamber, but that there is some resistance inside the party. Mr. DeLay and House Speaker Dennis Hastert have disagreed over gun control before, for example. There is also a move in the Senate for stricter background checks, which is led by Republican Sen. John McCain.
    Those who support more stringent gun-control laws are swimming against the tide, as the national trend is toward greater gun-ownership and use rights. Two days ago, the Virginia Senate voted down a bill that sought to make it more difficult to purchase arms at gun shows. Three weeks ago, the Wisconsin Senate overrode the governor's veto of a bill to allow citizens to carry concealed handguns. Similar right-to-carry legislation was introduced in Kansas on Tuesday — the same day legislation was introduced in Illinois to allow citizens to use handguns for self-defense in their homes, even in communities that have gun bans. In Congress, the Republican leadership is planning a vote next month that would protect gun manufacturers from product-liability claims.
    Not all Democrats look forward to a partisan fight over gun-ownership rights. Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, who faces a tough re-election bid in pro-gun South Dakota, realizes the danger for both his campaign and the party's national ticket — and is trying to discourage the push for gun control among his colleagues. Mr. Daschle's strategic loss on this issue could bring electoral gains for Republicans in the fall.
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WI ccw law vote
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2004, 03:35:20 AM »
Unfortunately, after the Senate vote to override, the House needed to vote also and our Dem governor twisted arms and got a Dem house member who had originally voted in favor to flip by political arm twisting and the House vote failed by ONE vote.  We in Wisconsin are still denied our US Constitional rights. pg
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Re: WI ccw law vote
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2004, 03:42:43 AM »
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Unfortunately, after the Senate vote to override, the House needed to vote also and our Dem governor twisted arms and got a Dem house member who had originally voted in favor to flip by political arm twisting and the House vote failed by ONE vote.  We in Wisconsin are still denied our US Constitional rights. pg
 WI is has too many liberals to suit me but since I live here I have to deal with it. I will say that Sherman will be going back to being a lawyer if us gun owners have any thing to say about it, as his political days will be over. I think a lot of Democrats in the next few elections will have something to worry about if the gun owners will unite in this fight. All depends on the Union Democrat Machine on how well they can still elect the liberals. I know of too many gun owners that vote union as the union tells them who to vote for or they face the threat if you vote for so and so you could lose your jobs. DUh they loose them anyway but are too dang dumb to see that!! Jim
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