Author Topic: Are sources getting scarce for Black Powder? (Read 1605 times)

BoomLover · « **on:** January 21, 2013, 08:42:57 PM »

Just wondering...I have had a few black powder muzzle loaders tell me recently that their usual sources for black powder are saying none in stock right now. Same for Model Rocket shooters ...anybody else having this problem? My source still has supplies on hand... BoomLover

Bigeasy · « **Reply #1 on:** January 21, 2013, 09:50:26 PM »

I generally prefer Pyrodex to black for my muzzleloaders, but still like black for pan priming. I have though, noticed less and less shops are carrying real black powder. I am not up on the regulations, but I think it might have to do with the govt. requiring different handling / storage procedures for black as compared to black substitutes.

Larry

hillbill · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2013, 12:47:05 AM »

i would consider stocking up, i did a awhile back. even our local gun store that is known for stocking muzzelloading supplies was out last time i checked and they said they didnt know when they could get any either. there are sources online you can order from. you will pay a hazmat fee but its really not that much if you order say 25lbs or so.you can still get powder much cheaper that way than the high priced black powder subs purchased locally.

Ranch13 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2013, 04:49:00 AM »

There may be a problem with some local shops selling blackpowder as the cost of meeting the requirements may be more than the actual sales add up to, what with folks thinking they're better off with the fake stuff.
There is also a shortage of Goex powders at the moment as there's been a rash of explosions in the last couple of years at the plant, that have really messed with the availability of civilian/sporting grade powder.
There's no place I know of within a 100 miles for me to get blackpowder, so I order from Powder Inc, Grafs and sometimes Bear River Powder. In addition Track of the Wolf, Maine Powde House, Buffalo Arms and Upper Missouri trading co, and Coonies sell black by "mail order".
Also Powder Inc , Grafs and Buffalo Arms will ship in as little as 5 lb lots. And Powder Inc's prices are delivered .

buzz36 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2013, 06:55:53 AM »

My findings is my online suppliers have all in stock but nothing localy in my neck of the woods the shopkeeps say the regs and extra cost outway sales and the profit margin
probly big brothers regs causing this issue

KABAR2 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2013, 08:16:09 AM »

There may also be some spill over from the panic buying that is going on in other areas of the shooting sport.... some people may believe that they need to stock up "Just in case" putting stress on whats available.....

BoomLover · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2013, 04:30:26 PM »

That's kinda what I thought, and also what I told others who have asked...

Ranger99 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2013, 04:35:35 PM »

honest-to-goodness real charcoal
black has always been scarce around
here. i've always kept a personal
stock for that reason.
it's way worse now. . .

hillbill · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2013, 12:46:32 PM »

Quote from: Ranch13 on January 22, 2013, 04:49:00 AM

There may be a problem with some local shops selling blackpowder as the cost of meeting the requirements may be more than the actual sales add up to, what with folks thinking they're better off with the fake stuff.
There is also a shortage of Goex powders at the moment as there's been a rash of explosions in the last couple of years at the plant, that have really messed with the availability of civilian/sporting grade powder.
There's no place I know of within a 100 miles for me to get blackpowder, so I order from Powder Inc, Grafs and sometimes Bear River Powder. In addition Track of the Wolf, Maine Powde House, Buffalo Arms and Upper Missouri trading co, and Coonies sell black by "mail order".
Also Powder Inc , Grafs and Buffalo Arms will ship in as little as 5 lb lots. And Powder Inc's prices are delivered .

i know powder incs prices are very cheap if you pick it up at his store. my dad goes to a mounted shoot in his town and he brngs it right to shoot location for him.i got a 25 lb case of KIK powder recently for 12 buks a lb picked up.i really like the kik powder also.

Ranch13 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2013, 01:25:28 PM »

Yes Jerry's prices are very hard to beat, especially when buying in full case lots. Heck of a nice guy as well.

hillbill · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:27:37 PM »

Quote from: Ranch13 on January 23, 2013, 01:25:28 PM

Yes Jerry's prices are very hard to beat, especially when buying in full case lots. Heck of a nice guy as well.

thats what ive heard.all i know is im set up for a few years of shooting at a very cheap price.since im cheap that makes me happy!

Ranch13 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2013, 02:32:02 PM »

We generally go thru 1 case a year, sometimes 2. Keeping primers around is harder than the powder..

claypipe · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:01:04 AM »

I live in Slidell, Louisiana, and the nearest place I can find for real blackpowder is:

Jacks Place
282 H.Booty Lane
Kisatchie, LA 71468
*BY APPOINTMENT ONLY!!!

http://www.jackspowderkeg.com/

CP

BoomLover · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:47:06 PM »

Thanks, Claypipe...haven't seen you on here for a while, now...I think I will tell my cousin about that place, they live in Arkansas, not that far away...

Ranch13 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 26, 2013, 03:08:31 AM »

Powder Inc.
1861 North College Ave.
Clarksville, AR 72830
Toll Free (from within US): (877) 833-1799

Double D · « **Reply #15 on:** January 26, 2013, 07:04:23 AM »

You will find these distrubutors as well as others list in the cannon link list in the stickies at the top of the board. A good resource to find a powder is to look to the GEOX wesite and look at there list of distributors.

theratdog · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2013, 09:41:58 PM »

you may some day have to make you own i have and it's not hard.

michaelfreeland · « **Reply #17 on:** February 03, 2013, 07:37:08 AM »

I get mine from ACE PYRO in Michigan. They have 2FA around $7.00/Lb in 50 lb boxes.
It works great

cannonmn · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2013, 07:18:19 PM »

When we can't get blackpowder anymore but still want to make noise, here's what we'll have do do:

de_lok · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2013, 07:26:35 PM »

Thats too funny ! ! (?^

Is that the beer kegs after their empty?

Let me guess, that video was shot in Poland? )L$

, heck even us southern rednecks ain't that crazy :9)

! ! ! !

cannonmn · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2013, 01:56:51 AM »

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They have 2FA around $7.00/Lb in 50 lb boxes.
It works great

I bought some and tried using for blanks, did not work well, had lots of unburned grains raining down. What kind of cannon did you use it in, and did you test to see how much unburned shot out? If a lot isn't going to burn it would be hard to get consistent IV's and accuracy, I'd think. Maybe if I'd mixed in some FF or FFF it'd light up the big, lumpy 2FA more quickly. If I knew I was getting it all to burn I'd use it for sure in larger-longer bore cannons.

cannonmn · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2013, 01:59:08 AM »

The You-Tube data on this video, as I recall, mentions Ukraine as source. I can see that, this was probably done at a mine or well where there's be enough drums and inebriated workers to pull this off.

michaelfreeland · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2013, 10:42:39 AM »

In response to Canonmn's question, I use it in a GB cannon, a Bowling Ball Mortar and it works great.
What brand did you get ?

cannonmn · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2013, 03:26:51 PM »

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What brand did you get?

Goex