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French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« on: February 07, 2013, 12:24:26 AM »
"A French Model of a 12-Pounder Bronze Cannon on Its Original Field Carriage, circa 1694"
I might have posted this before, I don't recall.

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1075/




"A BRITISH 9-POUNDER MK. I RIFLED MUZZLE-LOADING FIELD GUN AND LIMBER, OF PRESENTATION QUALITY, CONSTRUCTED TO SCALE IN SILVER-PLATE AND MAHOGANY, BY REID & SONS, NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE, circa 1870"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1919/


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Re: French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2013, 01:26:06 AM »
"A Brace of English Bronze Cannon, circa 1830"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1174/





"A Rare French Model Cannon, circa 1860"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1393/





"A Pair of English Cannon, circa 1830"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1334/

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Re: French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2013, 01:40:18 AM »
"A Pair of French Model 'Gribeauval' Field Guns, circa 1790"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1446/





"A Rare Pair of European Bronze Carronades, dated 1859"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/1396/





"An Engraving of Two Cannon Designs, dated 1671"

http://www.peterfiner.com/current-stock/item/668/

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Re: French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 02:37:00 AM »
The market must be sold out of really nice model cannons since these all seem way overpriced for the quality offered.  Or else Peter is aware of a customer with way more money than brains or taste.  The first one, French, isn't military, and doesn't have very sharply-defined marks, both normally keep such a piece in much lower price ranges.  Not even a maker's mark! "Pair of Gribeauval..." have barrels that are far from authentic in proportion for the Grib. system, notice that the chase is way too short, not to mention the muzzle flare is wrong shape.  And the all-metal ones near the end, fantastically overpriced junk.  Sorry Peter, how 'bout getting some really nice models like you've had in the past?
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Re: French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 03:49:00 AM »
Yeah, there's no question that grand ole Pete has a wry sense of humor when it comes to pricing, but I'd take the first one, and maybe the second, oh what the heck, I'll take any of them, including the print.
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Re: French 12-pdr Cannon Model - 24'' barrel
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 08:09:01 AM »
I find the uptick in value of this item, both interesting and amusing. The £2,750 realized (estimate £800 - £1,200) at a Christie's auction of September, 2011, as compared with the P. Finer estimated price bracket of £25,000 to £50,000. If the item itself isn't the exact same one, it's certainly the same model produced by the same maker.
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/arms-armor/a-silver-plated-model-of-a-muzzle-5471147-details.aspx?pos=9&intObjectID=5471147&sid=&page=3




Christie's - "A MODEL OF A RIFLED MUZZLE LOADING FIELD GUN ON CARRIAGE WITH LIMBER LATE 19TH EARLY 20TH CENTURY"
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/arms-armor/a-model-of-a-rifled-muzzle-loading-5471146-details.aspx?pos=8&intObjectID=5471146&sid=&page=3

"A PAIR OF BRONZE MODEL CANNONS
PROBABLY DUTCH, MID-17TH CENTURY
With five-stage barrels each with turned muzzle and decorated in low relief with bands of foliage, some against a punched ground, plain trunnions, dolphin lifting handles, cascabel-button cast as a berry, and pierced vent, one cannon on iron-mounted wooden field carriage
The barrels - 12¾ in. (32.4 cm.)"
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/arms-armor/a-pair-of-bronze-model-cannons-5471145-details.aspx?pos=7&intObjectID=5471145&sid=&page=3
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