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Offline gcrank1

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If you really want to know if you can take it
« on: February 12, 2013, 08:08:13 AM »
Yeah, I know, this is the rifle forum, but........if anybody here really wants to know if he/she can 'take' a heavy recoil caliber rechamber/stub, etc. of a Handi, consider this.
I just pulled out my 727 Ol' Ugly Overkill, the slug shooting 12ga. 'Topper based' thumper. I made up some slug loads, shot them, and got this thought (mind you, my slug loads dont even equal factory 2 3/4" Foster slugs). And Im no lightweight, I go 6'1" and about 210#. Oh, and out of a smoothbore like mine the recoil is less than a rifled slug gun.
Take a Topper weight 12 and shoot 2-3 boxes of factory slugs (10-15 shots) in one session out of it and tell us what ya think. I recommend ya do it offhand, but hey, if ya wanta bench it, go ahead, just remember I recommended offhand (and a recoil pad).
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 08:21:11 AM »
Previous discussion on a similar topic, 2oz turkey loads in a light shotgun are lots of fun too, a few shots even from a standing bipod were painful when patterning, but I never felt the recoil at all when shooting a tom.  ???

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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 09:56:10 AM »
How about the day after shooting the Tom?  :P
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 10:11:12 AM »
Ifn ya cheat n use da tirty two tweny, it doan hurt atall. ;)

Man, I do wish I was in a turkey rifle state.  I miss that.

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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2013, 10:20:28 AM »
Quote from: gcrank1 on February 12, 2013, 09:56:10 AM
How about the day after shooting the Tom?  :P
2oz.!!!, You're a better man than I, Gunga Din!

Never noticed a problem prolly cuz I only shoot one at a time.  ;)

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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2013, 10:21:29 AM »
Quote from: petemi on February 12, 2013, 10:11:12 AM
Ifn ya cheat n use da tirty two tweny, it doan hurt atall. ;)

Man, I do wish I was in a turkey rifle state.  I miss that.

Pete

Same here, shotgun only.

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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2013, 12:20:09 PM »
no thanks crank i am not into pain  ???
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2013, 01:18:24 PM »
Considering all of this, why in the H would you want a 3 1/2 inch chambered 24" 12 ga. barrel for a handi? Turkey loads in 3" in a mossberg 500 kick somethin fierce. Seems a lighter gun would only make that worse, and then go to 3 1/2s? Who shoots these? Masochists? Oh, and don't forget to choke it down to XXX full! all for a grass eatin under weight bird thats hard to pluck? I'm still tryin to get a turkey here, but don't think i'm goin to set up a handi for it.
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2013, 01:27:03 PM »
My current turkey gun is a 20ga TDC, 1½ oz  3" loads work just fine, girly recoil and all, ya know!  ;D

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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2013, 02:53:42 PM »
We fire 20-30 rounds each of 3 1/2" 12 gauge... 2 1/4 oz loads patterning for turkeys every spring... we notice it, but don't find it overly ojectionable... as Tim says you never notice it shooting a tom... unless you "short sight" and give yourself a third eyebrow (BTDT). 
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2013, 05:04:57 PM »
Yeah, Greek Gods can do that, mortals like me cant...... ;)
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 05:18:58 PM »
Quote from: gcrank1 on February 12, 2013, 05:04:57 PM
Yeah, Greek Gods can do that, mortals like me cant...... ;)
If only I had a quarter for every time I've been called a "Greek God"... I could make a phone call.  ;)
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2013, 06:31:50 AM »
gcrank,
 
I have the following;
12 ga Ultra LIGHT Slug Hunter
box of 1 & 11/16 oz (approx 740 grains) fullbore, .732" hard cast slugs
several cans of blue dot powder
lots of primers and 3" hulls.
 
I'll get back to you on the recoil.   ;D
 
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2013, 10:05:28 AM »
In my experience turkey loads kick harder than slugs.
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2013, 10:22:06 AM »
BB, do you remember the old series 'The Fugitive'? The main character was in search of the 'one armed man'...........(little known fact is he used to shoot an H&R with loads like you'll make)
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 10:38:51 AM »
I have a 338 WM bolt gun and a 45-70 lever gun. No contest, 12 gauge slug loads recoil much harder. 000 Buckshot has rather brisk recoil as well.
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Re: If you really want to know if you can take it
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2013, 05:11:13 PM »
I put a cheapo red dot on a mossberg 500. firing turkey loads bent the bolt that goes through the scope rail! My friend has the 40mm red dot on his and cracked the lense. 1 7-8 oz 3" shells kick damn hard. i imagine 3 12" would be even more. I do not want to try any of these in a pardner with the plastic butt plate! no thank you.
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