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GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« on: February 22, 2013, 02:50:59 PM »
“It is not a white flag of surrender,” Florida Gov. Rick Scott said.
 
This was technically true: Scott did not wave a banner of any color when he announced Wednesday that he wants Florida to expand Medicaid, a key piece of Obamacare.
 
But make no mistake: Scott, a tea party Republican and outspoken critic of the law, was laying down arms in defeat. The former hospital executive won his gubernatorial race in 2010 by campaigning against Obamacare, and as governor he fought the law in court.  Even when the Supreme Court ruled against his position last year, he vowed defiance.
 
“We’re not going to implement Obamacare in Florida,” he said then. “We’re not going to expand Medicaid.”
 
The about-face by Scott, the seventh Republican governor to accept Obama’s expansion of government-funded health care for the poor, is a crucial validation of the president’s signature initiative. In his announcement, Scott made a moral case for the Medicaid expansion as compelling as the law’s proponents ever made.
 
“This country is the greatest in the world, and it’s the greatest largely because of how we value the weakest among us,” said Scott, in a blazer and open-collar oxford, said in his announcement. “It shouldn’t depend on your Zip code or your tax bracket. No mother or father should despair over whether they have access to high-quality health care for their sick child.” With federal funds covering the cost, “I cannot in good conscience deny Floridians that needed access to health care.”
 
Conscience is trumping politics elsewhere, too, even as the tea party maintains its grip on Republicans in Washington. Thirteen states, mostly in the South, have so far opted out of the Medicaid expansion, according to the Advisory Board Co.  Twenty-three and the District have opted in, accepting federal funds (100 percent for three years and at least 90 percent after that) to extend Medicaid to those with incomes up to about $31,000 for a family of four. “States are deciding this deal is simply too good to pass up,” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told reporters Thursday.
 
In Ohio, Republican Gov. John Kasich urged lawmakers this week to “examine your conscience” before opposing his plan to embrace the Medicaid expansion. Invoking his own moral sense, Kasich said, “I can’t look at the disabled, I can’t look at the poor, I can’t look at the mentally ill, I can’t look at the addicted and think we ought to ignore them. For those that live in the shadows of life, those who are the least among us, I will not accept the fact that the most vulnerable in our state should be ignored. We can help them.”
 
Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder declared this month that the Medicaid expansion “makes sense for the physical and fiscal health of Michigan.” And in Arizona, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer, a hardened Obama foe, justified her decision to embrace the Medicaid expansion with language similar to that used by the law’s proponents.
 
“With this move, we will secure a federal revenue stream to cover the costs of the uninsured who already show up in our doctors’ offices and emergency rooms,” Brewer said in her State of the State address. “Health-care premiums are raised year after year to account for expenses incurred by our hospitals as they provide care to the uninsured.”
 
In Florida, the dwindling band of tea-partiers was furious with Scott, calling him a Benedict Arnold. But the cause he supposedly betrayed has already lost.
 
After following the tea party agenda over the last two years, Scott has the support of just one in three Floridians. Now he’s acting like a competent executive. He said he would evaluate the expansion over time and decide whether changes should be made. That’s a great idea. It’s too bad the law’s opponents wasted three years hollering about socialism and tyranny.
 
Scott argued that the Supreme Court and the 2012 election made Obamacare inescapable, but he also made a personal appeal for the expansion. The recent death of his mother gave him “a new perspective,” he said. “I thought about my mom’s struggles raising five children with very little money. I remember my mom’s heartbreak when she struggled to find health care for my brother. I don’t want any parent to worry like my mom did.”
 
“My top priority continues to be to make Florida the global leader for job creation,” the tea party traitor said. “But we also have to be sensitive to the needs of the poorest and the weakest among us who struggle to access affordable, high-quality health care.”
 
Obama couldn’t have said it better himself.
 
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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 03:47:31 PM »
Obamacare is DESIGNED to make the states choose to provide universal healthcare through Medicaid.
If you give up, THEY don't have to win.

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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 06:35:04 PM »
Obamacare is DESIGNED to make the states choose to provide universal healthcare through Medicaid.

Chung,

You really need to take lessons in economics.    Obamacare is designed to wreck the American healthcare system, and force everyone onto a single-payer government healthcare system.  Your liberal Messiah Obama came out in 2003 and said he would work to a single-payer system.   He is making good on his word.   And you happily endorse him.  You had best hope you do not need a major life-saving procedure; the "death panel" may not find you worthy, despite your praise for the liberal idol His Worship Barack Obama Deus Mundi.

You know, I think I will ignore you.   I grow weary of this liberal prattle.

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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2013, 01:46:32 AM »
moonbeam [CA] is dancing around the costs expanding medicaid, even he knows it will break the state again. In his 'state of the state' address he sounds like 'bagdad bob'.  Eventually CA won't become part of mexico, it will become part of China.
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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2013, 01:48:53 AM »
We NEED a single payer system.
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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2013, 02:17:03 AM »
We need a single payor system like a dictatorship needs another restriction on rights.  What the hell, you some kind of commie stooge.  A single payor system with open enrollment and without qualification is about the worst type of healthcare system ever conceived of since socialized medicine bankrupted england and canada.  This obamacare program is nothing more than a open door for political constituency - he is buying the votes of blacks (who usually suck up to the slavery issue and couldn't give a squat otherwise) and mexican  (who want the southeast back)  by saying - come on up, we gots free healthcare here and nobody gets turned away, jus gimme yer vote - which he gets because both groups have their hands out. 
This creates a 2-tier system:  under obamacare you get a basic program (medicaid level care).  If you have your own insurance you get a better program because between the two you pay more (private insureance level care).  And Jan Brewer is right - right now hospitals get a royal screuing when they treat the uninsured (because according to federal mandates and requirements you cannot turn anyone away who comes to your doors seeking help) and by expanding the medicaid program (which pays for the indigent, not the elderly) states and hospitals will be able to recoup some of those losses.  Unfortunately it means another run on the social security system which foots the bill for medicaid; but there is absolutely nothing that says that once he is out of office the system cannot be revamped to be less of a tax burden on those who pay rather than a total benefit for those who do not yet claim voting rights (like that ohio poll station assistant who voted for him as many times as she wanted because it felt good)..... 
 
Unfortunately though, I believe those states will come to expect the free funding flow to cover those bills but will see the absolute need to reduce spending and cut back on programs when the funding stream ends - of course that means that all those who are in the country illegally yet seek voting rights will begin to scream about not having the same quality healthcare they had under obama.  Under obamacare they get clean sheets which is more than they ever had before, and 3 meals a day which is probably much more than they ever had before - and it's free because stupid short sighted single focus amerikans voted that a-ho back into office. 
 

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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2013, 02:44:02 AM »
England and Canada are not bankrupt. The trickle down conservative economy failed. It's time to move on to something that can be sustained for more than 30 years without the economy collapsing. US healthcare costs are rising faster than the country can sustain them. Get used to it--- it's here to stay. What's on its way out is the radical right.
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Re: GOP governors make peace with Obamacare
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 02:48:13 AM »
The product is chaos. The result; the united soviet states of north america.
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