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http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/students-told-to-call-9-11-hijackers-freedom-fighters.html
 
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Students Told to Call 9-11 Hijackers “Freedom Fighters”  Posted in Top Stories | 0 comments Students Told to Call 9-11 Hijackers “Freedom Fighters” Feb 26, 2013
  By Todd Starnes
An Advanced Placement World Geography teacher at a Texas high school who encouraged students to dress in Islamic clothing also instructed them to refer to the 9-11 hijackers not as terrorists – but as “freedom fighters,” according to students who were in the class.
Texas students being taught 9-11-01 murderers were freedom fighters
Students at Lumberton High School were also told to stop referring to the Holocaust as Genocide – instead they were told to use the term “ethnic cleansing.”
John Valastro, the superintendent of the Lumberton Independent School District, told Fox News that the teacher did absolutely nothing wrong.
 
“What is more dangerous – fear and ignorance or education and understanding,” he asked. “From our standpoint, we are here to educate the kids.”
Valastro said the teacher involved is a 32-year veteran who was simply following state teaching guidelines.
“I don’t think my freshman-level teacher was trying to politicize radical Islam or anything like that,” he told Fox News. “I don’t think our teacher has..to my knowledge ever converted a single student to Islam.”
 A Texas mom became outraged after she discovered a Facebook photo of her child wearing Islamic garb. A Texas mom became outraged after she discovered a Facebook photo of her child wearing Islamic garb. The Islamic lessons in the small public high school generated national attention after a photograph of four female students wearing burqas surfaced on Facebook.
April LeBlanc’s 15-year-old daughter was one of the students in the photograph. She told Fox News that many parents in the district feel betrayed by school officials.
 
“My biggest thing is not the burqa,” she said. “That was the key to opening up the rest. It’s scary how far they dove into the Islamic faith. It’s scary what they taught my daughter. Who’s in charge of this? How did our superintendent let this slip through the cracks?”
LeBlanc said the students were told that they could no longer use the terms suicide bomber or terrorist. Instead, they were instructed to use the words “freedom fighters.”
“This teacher taught her that a freedom fighter is when they give their life for the Holy War – and that they’re going to go to heaven,” she told Fox News. “They were saturating these kids in Islam and my daughter is an American Christian child.”
Madelyn LeBlanc told Fox News that it was clear her teacher was very uncomfortable lecturing the students.
 
“I do have a lot of sympathy for her,” the 15-year-old said. “At the very beginning she said she didn’t want to teach it but it was in the curriculum.”
Her mother added that it was her impression that the teacher did not agree with the quote about calling the terrorists freedom fighters and laced her lecture with sarcasm.
During a lesson on Judaism, LeBlanc said the teacher told the class, “Students, I’m supposed to be politically correct and tell you that the Holocaust was not Genocide. It was an ethnic cleansing.”
 
LeBlanc said her daughter kept detailed notes of every classroom lecture and as she read the transcripts she became disturbed.
“Really,” she asked. “They can’t call the Holocaust Genocide? I was more upset with that than the lessons on Islam. It made me sick.”
 
And then came the comparison between the 9-11 hijackers and the freedom fighters.
Madelyn said a young man sitting beside her was stunned.
“He was shocked that we had to call them that,” she told Fox News. “He laughed and asked the teacher, ‘Is that a joke? Are you serious? Why do we have to call them that? That makes it sound okay (what they did) And it’s not.’”
Madelyn said the teacher didn’t know how to respond.
“She said it was something we have to learn for the end of the year testing,” she said. “I’m sure it was very difficult for her to do.”
 
Madelyn said the lesson about freedom fighters made her feel “terrible.”
“That made it sound like what they were doing was okay,” she said.
The superintendent also defended the lesson on freedom fighters.
“The whole idea behind this particular lesson – do you call yourself a freedom fighter or Islamic jihadist – or whatever it is you want to be called – you’ve got to put things in perspective,” the superintendent said. “We’re trying to teach the kids to discern for themselves that one thing can be called many different things.”
Valastro said it’s important for students to understand context.
“We might see it as terrorism, but from the Islamic side they might call it jihadist or freedom fighter,” he said.
 
The superintendent said he was not aware of the specific comments made about the 9-11 hijackers – but conceded there was only one side to the attack.
“I do agree it was a terrorist attack,” he said. “But in several classes across this country, you’re going to have a make-up of students from all over the world in your class. We teach it as an act of terrorism – whereas they are teaching it to their kids as a revolutionary event.”
Fox News has learned that the lessons were not part of a controversial statewide curriculum called CSCOPE. That program has generated massive criticism for being pro-Islam and anti-Christian.
 
Janice VanCleave, a vocal CSCOPE critic and the founder of Texas CSCOPE Review, said that may be the case – but the fingerprints of CSCOPE are all over the AP class.
“With or without the lessons, the class was using required information set by CSCOPE and required by the superintendent,” she said.
VanCleave said she was personally disgusted to learn that Texas school children were being taught that the 9-11 hijackers were freedom fighters.
 
“This has to stop right now,” she said. “Texas superintendents and school board members are to blame for CSCOPE being in Texas schools. Anyone of them that promotes the use of the title of freedom fighters for those who destroyed and killed so many on 9-11 need to be removed from our schools today.”
VanCleave said school administrators who support CSCOPE are “working to destroy Texas education and teach our children untruths.”
One controversial lesson actually instructed students to call the Boston Tea Party a terrorist act.
 
“The Boston Tea Party (participants) were freedom fighters,” she said. “The 9-11 hijackers were terrorists.”
Valastro blamed the controversy in his district on outsiders.
“The unfortunate thing is we have a group in Texas that has politicized our curriculum,” he said. “It’s unfortunate this teacher is getting beat up in the middle of this so people can make political points.”
As for the Boston Tea Party – the superintendent said it goes back to perspective.
“We were revolutionaries, but on the British side of the ocean we were destroying their content and they saw it as a terrorist attack,” he said.
 
LeBlanc said she was especially bothered by the lack of emphasis on other religions. She said there were hardly any lessons on Judaism and none on Christianity.
“I wondered how it was okay for them to go so in-depth into a religion from the other side of the world but it was not okay for them to be like that with Christianity,” she said.
“I try to stay open-minded,” she said. “I don’t want my daughter to be ignorant about the world. My kids watch the news with us. We make them aware. I don’t even mind the high school teaching these things.”
But, she added, there was no balance.
 
“They can talk about how important Mecca is – but why aren’t they talking about how important Christianity was to the founding of the nation,” she asked.
LeBlanc and other parents said they feel betrayed.
“We trusted these people,” she said of the school system. “It scares me. I feel like our school is being infiltrated. How can this not be a sign? We’re talking about Lumberton, Texas. We’re talking about a small town with Christian churches on every street corner. Right in our small school this is going on.”
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 10:34:13 PM »
Role playing has been a part of education since I was in school a long time ago.
You need to understand where folks come from and learn--I am not saying agree!
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 06:16:09 AM »
This isn't role playing. This is blatently a political agenda being forced on these kids.
 I suppose that next they'll be telling our kids that the attack on Pearl harbor was a 'demonstration'. Oh wait, kids are probably being told that WWII never happened.
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 07:26:20 AM »
Who's "freedom" were the 9-11 hijackers fighting for? The ideology for which they were fighting seems pretty damn oppressive to me.
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2013, 07:41:22 AM »
I don't think even al quaeda or the people that performed the attacks would consider themselves freedom fighters in the context of this attack. The objective of this mission was clear: terrorism.
 
The lesson that should be taught is that it was one of the most effective assaults in the history of the world. A handful of people killed thousands, and created a state of perpetual hysteria and over-reaction that has persisted for over a decade. 

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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2013, 09:56:03 AM »
Well put Conan. Freedom takers is a more correct term. They sure did manage to have some of our freedoms taken away. That event will probably go down in history as the most accomplished mission ever undertaken.
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2013, 10:14:07 AM »
The attackers on 9-11 were invaders not freedom fighters . It would be like George Washington attacking greese back in the day .
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2013, 02:47:50 PM »
The attackers on 9-11 were invaders not freedom fighters . It would be like George Washington attacking greese back in the day .

 
SHOOTALL. And we can thank WHO for teachers like this?? YEP, liberals. Thank a liberal today. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2013, 04:36:08 PM »
OK here is some local information I have found. This school is about a 30 minute drive from my home. I know a school administrator there. My wife worked at the hospital where a lot of graduates also work. This is nothing new for that teacher its been going on for at least 15 years. No one was ever forced to wear burkas, and I don't really have a problem with learning about other cultures.
 
That being said, I'm wondering why this is curriculum for a world geography class. And as for teaching these young people that the 9-11 attackers are freedom fighters is completely BS, reprehensible and an abomination against everything that is wholesome and decent. What other than a than a degenerate would espouse such manure.
 
Was Timothy McVeigh a freedom fighter, I think not. He was a coward and a Terrorist. However, he comes closer to that description than any of those clowns.   
 
I don't think this "teacher" is a liberal. I think she is an idiot at the very least and a traitor to this country more than likely. No child of mine would stay in that classroom any longer than it would take me to get there and rectify that. I will be doing more investigation and report my findings.  There are liberals teaching Pman, but idiots and traitors scare me a hell of a lot more!
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2013, 04:49:14 PM »
OS. If I lived within 30 miles of a moron like that I would do everything in my power to see her fired and barred from ever teaching again. Liberal attitudes is what spawns sick morons like her. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2013, 04:53:36 PM »
Role playing has been a part of education since I was in school a long time ago.
You need to understand where folks come from and learn--I am not saying agree!
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I agree Will , hearing the other side is always a way to understand where even an enemy is coming from . Like I saw something like this done once with the British side of our own revolution .
Not that I agreed, but it was interesting how they felt about that also .
It opened up a lot of understanding of what was going on at the time by hearing both sides .
Our conclusion can still be the same , but our grasp of what happened was much more enlightened .
 


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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 01:49:05 AM »
Getting into your enemy's mind is a great way to understand their behavior and predict their next move. It's a great tactic. But these weren't soldiers being trained, they were just kids, and they weren't being taught both sides of the story, just the one. It seems less like helping them to understand and more like trying to unnecessarily add even more to the bounds of "political correctness"

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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 02:13:20 AM »
Article stated the teacher felt uncomforable doing this. Then why do it. Refuse! Would he have done it, if the school wanted the students to role play members of the KKK. Teacher should have told them to stuff it in their lunch box. gypsyman
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2013, 02:16:36 AM »
I wasn't agreeing with it in any way tm, rather trying to make it sound more ridiculous for the fact that they're just trying to make the kids think how they want when they're too young to know any different

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2013, 02:25:18 AM »
keep your friends close your enemy closer  ;)
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2013, 04:43:53 AM »
My observation is that high schools should be concentrating on teaching kids reading  riting and rithmetic.  There's plenty of time after high school to learn off-the-wall stupid stuff.  And oh goody, goody; Algore's old network can teach kids all they'll ever want to know about the uh--other side.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2013, 06:10:21 PM »
OK< here is the scoop:
 
The media once again has made a big deal out of nothing (GB ban the media  ;)  ). Talked to Lumberton school administrator tonight and her husband (who spoke directly with the teacher). The teacher has been teaching cultural awareness for over fifteen years. The kids are given the opportunity to wear burqas, as well as other cultural dress around the world of various cultures. Not just middleastern/ muslim. I have no problem with that as I said before. Cultural understanding is a good thing.
 
The students are not  taught that the terrorists are freedom fighters. They are told that the terrorists Think and Believe that they are freedom fighters (and we already knew that, but that does not make headlines now does it) I was told that there is going to be a school board meeting. People around here are PO'd , Lumberton school officials are getting hate mail and angry calls.  Hopefully it will all be cleared up soon.
 
 I'll bet that the media doesn't report the fact that they stirred that pot. Ya think!
 
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Re: Texas students taught that 9-11 murderers were freedom fighters.
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2013, 01:19:20 AM »
I had a feeling this thread was bogus hyperventilatin' political propaganda tinged with religious suspicion, based of source/poaster...
Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2013, 04:19:47 AM »
So Oldshooter,,,,you mean Foxy News is playing head games with us..!? Who'd a thunk dat...?... ??? .. 8)
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Yea go figger ! cause I know that none of the other media ever play head games with us, huh..... ::)
 
And as far as your "poast" yt3,......... funny you didn't mention any of that prior to my clarification of what was actually said. I know none of your "poast" are biased towards your
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and your sources are always unbiased, and  beyond question....... cast the first stone........... 
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2013, 10:40:41 AM »
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And as far as your "poast" yt3,......... funny you didn't mention any of that prior to my clarification of what was actually said. I know none of your "poast" are biased towards your
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political propaganda   
and your sources are always unbiased, and  beyond question....... cast the first stone...........
No problem, Oldshooter. I think there's lots of anti-Muslim hysteria bouncing around, most of it based on ignorance & ideology & religious bigotry. Some of these folks really do think there's a Librul Conspiracy to bring Sharia to their local Klaverns...

Jesus said we should treat other as we'd want to be treated... and he didn't qualify that by their party affiliation, race, or even if they're of diff religion.