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Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« on: March 04, 2013, 08:40:09 AM »
Had a long chat ( the face to face kind) with my friend and Pastor the other day. We were discussing some local things and got around to things in general and I said " I am really concerned that my grandchildren ( 8 at this point)  won't have the same country that I had to grow up in."  He thought a second and replied " it isn't the same just look around you. "


He went on to say that they won't know the difference because they didn't live through the last 62 + years like we did.  They only know and will know what they experience, and even if we tell them it will be like ancient history to them.


Is it gone, are all of us " geisers "  just looking back and missing the old days  when the ships were made of wood and the men were made of steel, So to speak.




 The first boat I operated was a 65 ft Lugger made of wood that operated in the oil fields of Texas and Louisiana.  The last one was a 150 ft 7,000 hp behemoth that ran from St Paul to New Orleans.  Just an indication of how things changed in my life.


Not to mention all the political and social changes that I have seen. Do we old farts just need to give it up and let the young make it or break it on their own and do it like they do things now. Or is that gonna happen anyway and we just can't let go.


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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 08:48:30 AM »
Life and our world are always changing. Sometimes for the better, sometimes not but it's changing.
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 08:51:17 AM »
I'm sure back in the day, a bunch of old cavemen sat around the fire, heating the sharpened points of their spears, complaining about the way kids these days were using flint tips instead, and how they no longer followed the old ways and drug their women into the cave by their hair....  It is what it is; times always change..
 
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 09:39:53 AM »
A couple have already said it, but I don't think I grew up in the same country my grandparents did either.
Scary to think about what might be ahead for us...
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 10:07:56 AM »
We are going to give it up eventually one way or the other. We will either live long enough not to have the energy to deal with it or be dead.  ;D I'm still a pretty spry ol' fart but I've decided we are outnumbered. Don't believe me? Just look at what gets elected for our leaders. I am going to quit wasting brain cells worrying about the whole mess. We are dinosaurs and the younger people don't have the same mind set.

I'm going to use what energy and brain cells I have left for whatever remaining time I have to concentrate on things that I enjoy. Can't do anything about what I don't like so ----it.

I won't stop voting for the lesser of two evils though. The only choices we have are bad and worse.  :o ;D

I wish we still had certain things from the past but there is a bunch of stuff I'm glad we have progressed from.

 

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 10:22:16 AM »
Same country different people though. Different tools and products. More freedoms really in some ways. Alot more questioning of past rules and things we took for granted. Religion is facing hard questions . Like always we will be a better country but a different one . As a country we take alot but when we have had enough we get things stright in a hurry .
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 10:28:46 AM »
OS just before Dad died in December he mauled over a lot of things and one of those things was how things had changed.  He said his grandfather always spoke of how things had changed and how he just couldn't understand the new to him happenings.  How could people even understand electric lights and talking to someone miles away over a box that hung on the wall, among other things?  Dad being born in 1925 grew up with all those niceties and couldn't comprehend why they were so hard to understand.  In his lifetime he witnessed spaceflight, dependable cars, and electronics heretofore unfathomable.  In his last days, he completely understood his grandfathers query much as we all will in time.  Just try to imagine what is to come.  How I would love to witness it.  Both good and bad.     

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 11:38:33 AM »
When we grew up, recent history or current history meant body bags from wars came home to the tune of four thoussand  a week to a year, not four thousand over ten years.

Death, by any means, used to be part of life.
Now, regardless of political stance, it seems society thinks death is not supposed to be part of life.
The same lacking exists concerning respecting others, and that honor is the most important part of character.

The Bible says spare the rod and spoil the child. Today's society proves that to be correct.

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 11:58:41 AM »
Unfortunately our kids will see things through the eyes of liberal teachers, being lead to believe all kinds  of abominable things are normal, instead of sinful. No, it's not the world we grew up in. Sad to see young minds poisoned. POWDERMAN.  :( :(
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 12:51:48 PM »
Shootall mentioned religion, I remember  when, in God we trust was the way of the land at least in my neck of the woods. Heck back then ,you went to church even if it was by the ear in your mamas fist. Now the leader of this country says we are not a nation of Christians. Heck we may not be I dunno.
Don't want to get a religious discussion started here but that is a big change I have witnessed. A lot of what is " Normal" now was unheard of in the fifties, at least in my world.


My four year old grandson makes this IPad  Do things I cannot. Not sure if that is a good thing but it is an amazing thing to me.


I hope his freedom and his little 2 wk old cousin's freedom is not subjugated by my inability to stop some of the madness we see today. You know, the sins of the father.......
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 01:31:00 PM »
although i'm still a journeyman geezer,
and not a master yet, i see where some
folks do lament the past. makes me feel
like all the sacrifices my parents made,
and those before them are going to pot.
my folks had a hard life in the depression,
but it was a good life. they didn't have
anything in the way of possessions, but
they had their friends and family and made
a go of it. we live longer now because of
sacrifices and innovations of those before us.
when my father was a boy, someone sixty
years old was ancient. a lot of folks then
died young from diseases we treat with
over the counter medicines now. a lot of
newborn babies didn't make it, and a
lot of times the mother didn't either. i've been
told of kids in those times dying from stepping
on old rusty nails, or getting cut on an old
piece of barn tin, or from a cold. an old feller
told my friend a while back that these were
the good old days now. he said back in his day
folks worked a couple of hours before school,
you had to walk everywhere you went, and
everybody stank all the time. he said this was the
good old days  because you could just turn
a spigot and have water to drink or wash
without having to haul buckets up out of the well,
or do like my folks did and haul buckets from the
creek and let them sit a while so the sand would
settle to the bottom before you dipped up a drink.


i'm grateful for everything i have now, and
hopefully the next team up to bat will be
just as thankful if not more so, instead
of an entitlement attitude.
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 04:12:45 PM »
RANGER. Good post Sir. POWDERMAN.  ;D ;D
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 04:33:10 PM »
Will there still be a united states of AMERICA where a man and his family are FREE by our standads. Our rights are slowly being depleted and forbidden one at a time. We used to be able to pray in public and had the pledge of allegance said every morning in school. Now the rights of a few out weight the rights of many. One minority can say it offends him or her and everyone's given rights are stopped to please them and a money hungry lawyer. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND KEEP OUR CHILDREN FREE!!!!!
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 04:52:47 PM »
ZACHAROO. Good post Sir. Thank a liberal today. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2013, 03:52:10 AM »
Will there still be a united states of AMERICA where a man and his family are FREE by our standads. Our rights are slowly being depleted and forbidden one at a time. We used to be able to pray in public and had the pledge of allegance said every morning in school. Now the rights of a few out weight the rights of many. One minority can say it offends him or her and everyone's given rights are stopped to please them and a money hungry lawyer. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND KEEP OUR CHILDREN FREE!!!!!
Zacharoo

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2013, 04:15:23 AM »
In 1961 my uncle sat me and his 2 sons down and told us that we did not know what freedom was.  He reiterated what he had seen lost in the prior 39 years.  I do the same thing.  This great experiment of ours is doomed not because of the current population but because of how the PROGRESS (?) of mankind goes.  Nothing is forever, even evil will find that out.

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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2013, 04:22:29 AM »
You are spot on NH Yankee  !
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2013, 04:24:04 AM »
Will there still be a united states of AMERICA where a man and his family are FREE by our standads. Our rights are slowly being depleted and forbidden one at a time. We used to be able to pray in public and had the pledge of allegance said every morning in school. Now the rights of a few out weight the rights of many. One minority can say it offends him or her and everyone's given rights are stopped to please them and a money hungry lawyer. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND KEEP OUR CHILDREN FREE!!!!!
Zacharoo

Eventually, maybe we will. We became a free country because our ancestors were fed up with being told what to do by a king (same thing as a dictator, just a nicer sounding name). Now we are saddled with a government that is as bad or worse than what we rebelled against in the first place and it will continue to get worse, not better and there are many more people involved in the oppression than a king and his court.

Maybe there will come a time when enough people will become fed up and will develop the guts to change things for the better. I don't hold much hope and I certainly won't live long enough to see it happen. Frankly I have serious doubts about it ever taking place. There are just too many people wanting to change this country into the one they left because they didn't like it and don't forget those that want everything given to them by the "government" plus the government will never willingly give up any control of our lives unless forced too.

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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2013, 05:17:21 AM »
I think we are faced with a colossal dichotomy; many things have changed in ways that are nearly unbelievably positive, but politically and morally things have gone horribly bad.  I wouldn't change my standard of living and lifestyle for anything in the past, but because of the last couple of Presidential elections it's obvious that it is all very precarious. 


There have been times in all of our lives when we faced a much more dangerous calamity when the world could have been reduced to a smoking cinder if someone had made a wrong move.  Today it could still happen, but not quite as likely as it once was.  As much as our economy is not performing up to its potential, it's certainly not comparable to the depression of the Thirties.


I am actually encouraged by some of the new and younger politicians who are bringing back the conservative philosophy.  I still can't understand how so many of the old politicos who should know better have allowed our country to jump off the tracks.  Our fate is still very much in the hands of the American people to make it, or break it.
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2013, 05:54:57 AM »
I dunno magooch, with the towel heads getting the nukes now, all bets are off. There may be more chance of nuclear annihilation than ever before. And it just may start there.
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Re: Are we just to old and over the hill and just don't get it?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2013, 08:42:36 AM »
No matter what happens. I know that i can, and will, always be able to count on the Truth in His holy word. And in that. i will trust and rest.
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