Author Topic: Newbie here! (Read 836 times)

squirrelslayer · « **on:** January 30, 2013, 07:35:42 AM »

Signed up lastnight after looking for info on these dandy little rifles. This forum has already been such a huge help and answered so many questions about barrel fittment and availability that i want to thank all of those who have posted info now and in advance for all those who may help in the future. Great help guys!

brayh92 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2013, 07:45:46 AM »

We're all here to help with any questions welcome to the forum

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:00:14 AM »

Very cool forum, I actually got started here because my ole man had bought one of these in .22-250 and only shot it a couple times because out of the box it wont extract the spent case. Seems to have a "void" in the chamber that allows the case to swell. bought it in the mid nineties and I've finally gotten sick of seeing it sit in the safe.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:37:05 AM »

Were it me, Id back the load off bit by bit to where the sticking case wasnt much of an issue and consider if that load really would do what I need it to do. (lighter load, less pressure, less case expansion into the void)

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:52:26 AM »

That would be my first move if it was hand loads, this is all factory ammo. I'm headed out tomorrow morning to shoot it and see it again. "It's been sitting in a safe for over a decade". I'm pretty much starting over and am going to see if I can fix it with some extractor work that i was made aware of buy a member here.

tacklebury · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:07:48 AM »

I had a .45 LC Classic Carbine that I bought through Davidson's. After shooting it once, I saw the brass was football shaped slightly. It was actually 25 thousandths bigger in the middle than on the ends and didn't extract very well. I ended up returning it and was exchanged for one that was worse. Finally, after the 3rd try, I got a perfect chamber. That's one reason I like purchasing from Davidson's because of their lifetime guarantee even when the company doesn't give one. One thing you could try would be a cerrosafe chamber casting and that would show you what you have to deal with.

And welcome too.

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2013, 01:55:11 PM »

Yeah, after talking to the factory today I came away with the impression that they weren't going to cover it due to the fact that it's so old. So, I think I'm going to use it as my " learnin' piece" for now. Try out some chamber casting methods and then if I am correct in what I think is my prob I'm thinking I'll practice my reaming and come away with a 22-06 or something.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2013, 02:08:27 PM »

Remember, you'd have to handload for something like that too, so dont pass up seeing if you can find somebody local with the set up for 22-250 to reload some downloads and see if that helps.
For instance, (rule of thumb stuff here) if you cut a load by 5% you can cut pressures by 10%, etc., which can buy you some leeway.

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2013, 03:30:58 PM »

Oh I see where you're headed with it. I actually reload extensively but didn't notice you were saying to load some low press. Rounds for it. Not a bad idea but as I already have a .22-250 and frankly wouldn't want to be stuck shooting one that was loaded "down" to a hot .223 equivalent I'd just rather build something wild out of it for a project. But good call. This chamber is so bad that you have to knock the cases out with a rod and even after being driven out there is a visual bulge on one side. So I think I'll just take some meat out of it and have a fun/cheap project in the process.

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2013, 10:10:41 AM »

Quote from: squirrelslayer on January 30, 2013, 08:00:14 AM

I actually got started here because my ole man had bought one of these in .22-250 and only shot it a couple times because out of the box it wont extract the spent case. Seems to have a "void" in the chamber that allows the case to swell. bought it in the mid nineties and I've finally gotten sick of seeing it sit in the safe.

Me thinks you might want to do some reading in the stickies about brass not ejecting. There is a ton of suggestions covering that very subject. In the mid nineties H&R was still using ejectors as I recall. Someone will please correct me if that is incorrect.

Bill

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2013, 10:13:59 AM »

What Bill said, they didn't mfr manual extractor barrels until 2004.

Tim

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2013, 11:08:44 AM »

I read on the ejection/extraction issues out of curiosity. But mine is certainly a bulge half way up the case that requires a good heavy push of a rod to get it out.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2013, 12:37:36 PM »

Sounds like you have tools and skills available that not all are lucky enough to have. If you dont find a 'clean-up cartridge you like you might consider sleeving the chamber and a follow up rechamber. Concerning cartridge choices, I havent looked at the British selection, but many of those are 'big brass'.

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2013, 03:00:53 PM »

Yeah luckily I've got plenty of equipment so the nature of this is more of experimentation and less to do with practicality. I'm very interested in the .22-6mm but I'm not sure if it will clean it up. Also worried that standard chamber casting methods won't work because of the large void. Maybe the 22-250 has enough taper that it will come out intact but I'm thinking I might try a firm silicone or something.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »

Well, you have already determined that it is pretty substantial so the chambercast wont change your mind; the most expeditious move is to pick a caliber and rent a reamer (unless you wanted to try to sleeve the chamber, which is not a new process).

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2013, 07:02:17 PM »

I'm currently just doing some final research on the .22-6mm TTH and am pretty sure that's the direction I'm headed

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2013, 11:31:53 PM »

For those of you who remember the talk about my dads .22-250 with a "huge chamber void" with "sticking cases" I took it out and shot it and none stuck. The bulge was consistent with what all here had said I would see with an ejector barrel. Shot it again and still no sticking cases. So after a visit to dads house his story changed to, "yeah, thats the bulge i had." and "well maybe they didn't stick". So I started grilling him and found that it kept changing from they stuck to "maybe they didn't" to "oh hell i don't remember kid."

So, the .22-250 stands as a functioning barrel and I appreciate everyone's input greatly. Still hope to ream it out to something fun but for a few months it is going to be a loaner/backup gun on our big squirrel shoot up north in may. Figure I'll ream it out after that.

In the meantime, I'm gunna keep hassling pops about getting his story straight and on top of that figuring out what in the heck gun has cases getting stuck in it! lol
Never had to doubt things he told me before but as he gets older I realize its best to listen hard and "help him remember"

gcrank1 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2013, 03:50:56 AM »

Might I submit that staying 'low key' on your inquiry as the best investigatory approach? Keep a conversation going but just glean the info from what he relates and after a while you will likely have the story. Iffn he dont remember right now he wont remember until he does and getting him frustrated wont help. (In the same boat with an aging mom & dad)

nanuk-O-dah-Nort · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2013, 07:36:04 PM »

My Gramma went that route.

sometimes it was difficult keeping up with her during conversations as her train of thought was wander onto other subjects.

What Dad would do is ask her about a related story, get her onto THAT track, and then usually you could "Lead" her to where she remembers.

squirrelslayer · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2013, 11:41:00 PM »

Yeah he's quite the story teller and after his stroke a few years back I hear the same stories with different characters and settings all the time. I still love to hear them no matter how much they jump around. Still a wealth of knowledge there and after listening to him all my life I'm sure he's forgot more than I currently know. All the real technical stuff he still has. But he'll ask the dumbest questions and I look at him in wonder and a few seconds later he smiles and shrugs and realizes he knew the answer all along. It's always an adventure with him but no matter how many times he sends me chasing my tail I'll keep listening to the stories and trying to gather what I can.