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Offline teamnelson

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« on: February 19, 2004, 08:21:56 AM »
Someone messed up and let me shoot a Freedom Arms 353 Casull. Shot 2 rams the 2nd and 3rd time I pulled the trigger (IHMSA field pistol).  I like it!

So, anyone shot this in a Contender or Encore?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2004, 03:10:07 PM »
The 353 Casull is Freedom Arm's model number - the chambering is 357 Magnum. The Casull designation was on the early-production guns. My 353 was not marked that way, but, I have seen them with that marking. -- Philip Braud

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2004, 04:32:37 AM »
True, but it was designated 353 Casull specifically because it was overbuilt to handle pressures higher than a typical 357 Magnum (i.e. 60,000 PSI + vs. 35-40,000). http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt353.htm tells the story. The loads I shot through it would destroy any other 357 revolver.

So I guess I need to rephrase the question I was asking. Can a factory 357 barrel for a contender handle a 353 Casull load? Has anyone tried it? Would a G2 or Encore be a better platform because of the increased pressure?
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2004, 10:22:24 AM »
I forget the pressure numbers for the MAX, but they are sigificantly higher than the Mag so its possible, but 60,000 is way up there even for that small of a case head. The .223 gets up higher too but not that high I don't think.  D__, I miss my mind.  GOOD SHOOTIN',  Walt   :-D  :-D

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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2004, 03:16:44 PM »
Where the Freedom Arms 353 in 357 Magnum shines is its ability to handle full-power 180 - 200 grain bullet loads for silhouette. As with any cartridge that utilizes pistol - type bullets, it is a matter of diminishing returns. A good illustration of this was in the "Reloading Guide for Handgun Accuracy", that was published in 1982. They tested many cartridges suitable for silhouette usage. The 357 Magnum was tested in a Dan Wesson with a 8" barrel and a 10" Contender. Using the Sierra 170 FMJ, the Contender was 389 fps faster at the muzzle than the DW, but velocity at 200 meters was only 10 fps faster. The old rule applies - "the faster you start them, the faster they slow down." You are correct in stating that the FA will handle loads that would cripple a standard 357 Mag revolver. But, when you shoot this round in a single-shot, you get the same result without "maxing" the load. Sure, you can load it hotter than the average revolver - my question would be - "why would you want to"?? And , in closing , it is STILL a 357 Magnum, albiet one that will handle extreme loads without flinching. ---- Philip Braud --- PS - tell Major Golden "hello" for me !!

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2004, 10:17:13 AM »
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You betcha! He's my coach right now; we spent last saturday setting the dope on my .38 for Field Pistol, and a .22 for Smallbore. He's got my shooting .44 standing revolver, which I'm convinced is the Iron Man category of the sport - especially with wooden grips.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2004, 01:31:35 PM »
I am currently venturing into these waters with my 10" .357 Contender. The problem I am encountering is poor accuracy with cast bullets. It does fine with jacketed. And leading isn't the problem, either. All the molds I had were for plain-based bullets. Just picked up a GC mold the other day, and will try it next.  You do have to use small rifle primers.
 I would think some of the pointed 170-180gr designs might hold velocity better, due to higher BC.
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