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CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« on: March 11, 2013, 01:25:22 AM »
This photo is up for auction on eBay. It shows some folks using high pressure water to blow the powder out of a Civil War gun that was on display at the Providence, Rhode Island State House. Someone discovered in 1962, that the gun was loaded.



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Re: CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 01:30:26 AM »
I could have sworn that there is a thread on this cannon here, but all I can find is an old M&T contest where it's the object of one of their quests.
The reason this photo captured my interest in the first place, is because the gun does actually have considerable fame.

It's a M1857 12-pdr bronze Napoleon manufactured by the Henry N. Hooper & Co. foundry in 1862. The registry no. is 2, the foundry no. is 19, its weight is 1232 lbs, and it was inspected by Thomas Jackson Rodman.

The cannon is on display inside the Rhode Island State House in Providence. Here is some (Gettysburg) battle history of this Napoleon, culled from this site. http://www.quahog.org/attractions/index.php?id=62

"Enter the building via the north entrance and check out the cannon on display to your left (increased security may make it difficult to get close enough to read the display text, but be polite and respectful to the security staff and maybe they'll allow you access). What makes this bronze Napoleon 12-pounder especially noteworthy is that it doesn't work. (Most people throw out their broken toys. Here in Rhode Island we put them on public display.)

The gun was one of six used by the First Rhode Island Light Artillery, Battery B, at the Battle of Gettysburg. At around 1 p.m. on July 3, 1863, just before General George Pickett's assault on Union lines, two cannoneers were reloading this weapon when it was struck on the left side of the bore by a Confederate shell. You can still see the dent. The No. 1 gunner, William Jones, was killed instantly when a fragment of the shell tore off the left side of his head. The No. 2 gunner, Alfred G. Gardiner, lost his left arm. He died within minutes, reportedly shouting "Glory to God! Hallelujah! Amen!" in some sort of pain- and shock-induced religious delirium. The muzzle of the gun was altered by the heat of the explosion, and efforts to reload it with new shot were unsuccessful despite attempts to whack the ball into place with a hammer and axe. As the barrel cooled, it contracted, wedging the cannonball firmly inside, where it remains today.

Jones and Gardiner weren't the only ones in the company to meet their maker that day. By the time the battle ended, Battery B had been so hard hit that it had to be combined with another artillery unit.

A brass plaque mounted on the barrel of the gun reads:

U.S.
BATTERY B
R.I. LIGHT ARTILLERY

This gun was disabled
during the cannonade at
GETTYSBURG
July 3, 1863.
At the point where
PICKETT'S DIVISION
made the charge upon the
Union lines.
WILLIAM JONES and
ALFRED G. GARDINER
were killed by a
rebel shell while placing
the shot in its muzzle.

For a time the gun was placed on display in Washington, DC, where it served as witness to the ferocity of the Battle of Gettysburg. In 1874 the cannon was returned to the State of Rhode Island at the request of Battery B veterans. The 12-pounder traveled once more in 1988, under the aegis of a recreated Civil War Battery B unit, when it joined in a re-enactment of the Battle of Gettysburg in Pennsylvania.

In 1962 someone realized that since the cannonball had never been removed from the muzzle of the gun, two-and-a-half pounds of black gunpowder must still be inside the barrel. Members of the Rhode Island National Guard's Army Corps of Engineers drilled holes in the barrel and submerged it in water so that the powder could be removed safely. Thus, tourists like yourself are now safe from the trauma of surprise cannonballs to the face.

There's another cannon to your right. It was used by the First Regiment, Rhode Island Light Artillery, in the Battle of Bull Run on July 21, 1861. Look at it if you want, but once you've seen the Gettysburg Gun, all others pale in comparison. In glass cases behind each of the cannon are old, rotting Rhode Island battle flags from wars dating back to the Revolution."


From another site. http://sos.ri.gov/StateHouseTour/firstfloor/

"On August 24, 1962 (almost one hundred years after it became disabled) it was discovered that two and a half pounds of black gunpowder were still in the cannon. Gunpowder becomes more sensitive as it ages and is highly dangerous. People working at the State House were worried when they learned it could explode.
On August 25, 1962 the Rhode Island National Guard removed the cannon from the State House to the National Guard Maintenence shop in Smithfield. Two days later, they successfully removed the black powder, and the cannon was safely returned to the State House. From the outside the Gettysburg Gun still looks exactly as it did at the end of the battle on July 3, 1863. Can you find the drill hole?"

Okay, the photograph makes it clear that the barrel wasn't 'submerged in water', and I'd also venture a guess that only one hole was drilled, (probably through the bottom into the chamber) which would explain the force of the water jet blowing out the vent.

flickr - Erika Smith






RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 03:34:38 AM »
I live in Mass and work in RI so I'm very familliar with the "Gettysburg Gun". A number of infantrymen from the regiment I portray, the 15th Mass, were on detatched duty with Battery B and there was something of a baseball rivalry in the brigade that pitted the New Englanders and Minnesota boys against the New Yorkers and Pennsylvanians. I also have a copy of the Battery's official history around here somewhere that describes the events of July 3rd 1863. Accounts so far are pretty much correct, with the exception that it was not the "heat of the explosion" that damaged the gun. Due to a recent fire at the arsenal producing the time fuses for the Confederacy, they had farmed out production to numerous small shops and quality control (never that great in the first place) suffered. As a result most of the Confederate shells were burning long and overshot the Union line on Cemetery Ridge. Much of Alexander's barrage was wasted on the horses, Meade's HQ, and the Union Hospitals beyond. however, not all of them flew over and this gun was struck directly on the muzzle swell and the impact and explosion caused the damage still evident in the photos. If anyone wants to know more of the specifics, I'll look them up.

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Re: CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 05:08:34 AM »
I am also in RI & have friends in Batteries B & C.  http://www.batterybri.org/  Battery B is again horse drawn!

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Re: CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 09:41:00 AM »
Legio3arty,

I agree with you, that there is a lot more fantasy than fact involved in believing that heat from the Confederate shell caused the deformity in the bore of the gun.
Do you know of any first hand accounts that tell how long the gun had been firing, or that give an estimated number of charges fired before it became disabled?
The author writing in the (link) document I’m posting seems to be saying that the “Gettysburg Gun” started counter battery fire at around 1:15 pm, but he doesn’t report the time when the gun was put out of commission by the rebel shell.

http://www.gdg.org/Research/MOLLUS/mollus14.html

http://archive.org/stream/gettysburggun00rhod#page/n5/mode/2up

At one o'clock in the afternoon a cannon shot from the enemy's line, from the Washington Artillery, was fired on our right followed by another at an interval of a minute, breaking the silence brooding over the scorched battlefield.
It was a signal well understood, and the smoke of those guns had not dispersed before the whole rebel line was ablaze, and over one hundred cannon sent forth a concerted roar, that rivaled the angriest thunder. Our cannoneers jumped to their places at the pieces, the drivers to their horses, waiting the order to commence firing.
It was ten or fifteen minutes before we received orders to fire. Then at the command, the shrieking shot and shell were let loose upon their work of destruction, proving to be one of the most terrible artillery duels ever witnessed.
Then came Pickett's grand charge to break the Union centre, sweep the Second Corps from their path and then on to Washington. How Lee succeeded history tells.
It was during this fierce cannonade that one of the pieces of Battery B was struck by a rebel shell which exploded and killed two cannoneers. The men were in the act of loading it. No. 1, William Jones, had stepped to his place between the muzzle of the piece and wheel, right side, and had swabbed the gun and reversed sponge staff, which is also the rammer, and was waiting for the charge to be inserted by No. 2. Alfred G. Gardner, No. 2, had stepped to his place between the muzzle of the piece and wheel, left side, facing inward to the rear, taking the ammunition from No. 5 over the wheel. He turned slightly to the left, and was in the act of inserting the charge into the piece when a shell from one of the enemy's guns, struck the face of the muzzle, left side of the bore and exploded. William Jones was killed instantly by being struck on the left side of his head by a fragment of the shell, which cut the top completely off. He fell with his head toward the enemy, and the sponge staff was thrown forward beyond him two or three yards.
Alfred G. Gardner was struck in the left shoulder, almost tearing his arm from his body. He lived a few minutes and died shouting, "Glory to God! I am happy! Hallelujah!" his sergeant and friend bending over him to receive his dying request.
The sergeant of the piece, Albert A. Straight, and the remaining cannoneers tried to load the piece, and placing a charge in the muzzle of the gun. They found it impossible to ram it home. Again and again they tried to drive home the charge which proved so obstinate, but their efforts were futile. The depression on the muzzle was so great that the charge could not be forced in, and the attempt was abandoned, and as the piece cooled off the shot became firmly fixed in the bore of the gun.
This piece is the so called Gettysburg gun of Battery B, First Regiment Rhode Island Light Artillery.(3)

By this letter it proves that the piece and carriage were struck three times, and that there was an explosion, for the sergeant says that his piece was struck three times by shot or shell before they exploded. Now they must have been shell which struck to have exploded. The writer distinctly remembers seeing the explosion at the piece when the two men were killed, but at the time thought that the piece had been fired, until told that it was struck by a rebel shell. And again if they had been solid shot which had struck it the piece would have been dismounted.
The letter also with other statements of several of the cannoneers, proves that it was the fourth piece of the battery, and that the gun was disabled by being struck by a rebel shell that exploded and killed two men that were in the act of loading it; that the sergeant and other cannoneers, after it was struck, tried to load it but failed, and the charge was placed in the bore by the sergeant and stuck there. (There is no proof to show whether it was the same charge which Gardner had taken to put in or another one; but there was no ammunition found on the ground after the piece was withdrawn from the field.) And so the shot of that charge which was placed in the gun by the sergeant remains firmly fixed in the muzzle, and not a rebel shot, as some have claimed it to be, and shot in there by one of the enemy's guns during the cannonading of July 3, 1863, at the battle of Gettysburg.
Sergeant Straight finding that the piece could not be loaded reported it disabled, and was ordered by Lieutenant Perrin to have it withdrawn from the field to the rear, where the battery wagon and forge were stationed."




“The fourth piece of the battery (the so-called Gettysburg gun), upon examination showed that the gun and gun carriage had been struck three times with shell, and also showed thirty-nine bullet marks, which serve to remind those who may look upon it of the ordeal through which it passed in that fearful strife. This gun with other condemned ordnance was sent to the Arsenal at Washington, D. C., there placed on exhibition, where it remained until May, 1874.”

RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: CW cannon found to be loaded in RI State House - 1962
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2013, 12:58:20 AM »
If Sergeant John H. Rhodes is relating a relatively accurate account of the battle then this gun was most likely disabled before 2:45 pm, because he states that:  “About half past two o'clock P. M., Battery B's fire began to slacken for want of men, and ammunition being about exhausted, and at quarter of three P. M. a battery (Cowen's First New York Artillery) came up to the ridge on the trot, wheeled into battery on the left of Battery B's position, and opened fire with spherical case shell on the enemy's line of infantry moving from the woods towards the Emmittsburg road in their front. Battery B at this time was relieved and ordered to the rear to where the battery wagon and forge were parked.”

The author also writes that the “Gettysburg Gun” was damaged on the muzzle during the “fierce carronade” that began around 1:00 pm, so I don’t think that it’s unreasonable to speculate that the gun was disabled sometime between 1:15 pm and 2:45 pm, with a probable tilt towards the earlier time.





 
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.