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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2013, 01:28:10 AM »
Thanks LaDano
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2013, 05:29:38 AM »


Still trying to get the weather here to cooperate so I can shoot.  Still trying to find the right o rings for my forearms.  Anyhow the important question is what torque do you put on the forearm screw when re attaching.
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Stew, quit trying to put so much into it.  It ain't a big deal.  If you put an "O" ring in there, all it is doing is being a soft spacer between the barrel and forend allowing the barrel to oscillate more naturally..  Torque??  I don't know.  Ask Tim.  I keep it mild not to smash the "O" ring.  For me, it's a "feel" thing.  I've never measured it.  Just shoot the thing and we'll help you to figure it out later....if necessary.  Don't get overly concerned about it.  Most of mine shot very well out of the box or when put together.  Just do it, tell us about it, and if it needs improvement, we're here with ideas.
Why not shoot it first. See how it shoots.


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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2013, 05:54:37 AM »
I use a torque adjustable screwdriver that is set to 24in/lbs and is dedicated to just that task, so the screw is always tightened same, I suspect that is the culprit on changes in POI and accuracy for folks that swap barrels on a single frame, I don't swap barrels, but it eliminates another variable if I ever have to remove the barrel.

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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2013, 06:07:06 AM »
ok got to my pics.com. here is a group i got with my 223 after getting the forearm tweaked. This is a 100 yard 3 shot group from a bag rest.
 

 
 
 
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2013, 06:20:25 AM »
Nice, I assume the shot group wasn't as tight before the forarm tweaking?
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2013, 06:28:41 AM »
Before it was sporadic some times good and sometimes not so good. just had to hold your mouth right! but the o ring did the trick.
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2013, 06:43:10 AM »
Cool, I think I'm sold on the O-ring. It just amazes me how much one bolt in the forarm causing the barrel not to be free floated can cause so much talk, debate and inaccuracy in a lot of cases from what I gather. Makes me appreciate the guns that I have that are free floated.
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2013, 07:08:18 AM »
There are other methods to float it, and I like the set screw in the barrel stud for the forearm screw to bottom on, but it takes a little 'futzin' with. The 'quick & dirty' way is with the O-Ring to get any wood contact clear of the barrel, and you can do the check with a dollar bill (or a $100 if ya got any left and are feelin' ritzy  ;D ).
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2013, 07:24:24 AM »
I was going to ask if there was a way to float it but didn't want to seem like a complete idiot. :o ;D
 
But doing something like that is lightyears ahead of my current position in the Handi universe, so it might be a viable option a long ways down the road for me.
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Re: First shoot .223 tomorrow, should I ring the forend bolt first
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2013, 04:15:34 PM »
With my switch barrel, I finger tighten the thumbscrew so it just holds solid.  I have great accuracy even with switching, but maybe I have calibrated fingers!   :o
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