no guns what next

[SHOOTALL]

So the UN has a plan to take guns. Canada tried for over 10 years then gave up sort of. So say laws get passed even in the USA. How long would it take to find and collect all private guns around the world ? Would an illegal black market develop like with drugs ? Would governments from say communist countries supply these black markets ? What could really happen ?  This could be a really  dangerous time in world history maybe more so than the threat of nukes in some respects.

[guzzijohn]

It would be impossible to do. There would be small gun makers everywhere. Look at all the makers of AK47s out of little huts in Afghanistan. Anytime anything is illegal someone will have it for a price which the war on drugs people have yet to figure out.
GuzziJohn

[Empty Quiver]

For one thing guns are not that danged complicated. If you can grow pot at home somebody is going to make the connection and start making guns in the garage. That somebody will then be a criminal, despised by the "good citizens" just as the dope grower is today. If a blacksmith was turning out guns in the 1600's surely a machinist could do the same today. A drug lab can turn out any manner of designer hallucinogens, why not smokeless powder? Primers would be tedious I admit but surely an industry that makes submarines to skirt DEA can figure out how to make a primer.


My point is this guns will remain available as are drugs if a person is willing to skirt or break the law. The term criminal will simply be applied to another group who find the current laws objectionable. 

[SHOOTALL]

I worked with a carpenter years ago , he was from the mountains and was big into flint lock rifles and old ways. He was always saying a time will come when folks would be glad to get their hands on a Flint lock. He made BLK powder but I never saw him shoot it so I don't know the quality. 

[Anna]

Swords and crossbows. England already is experiencing a huge problem with just knives .
A batch of unarmed sheeple would not stand much of a chance against an experienced and well
trained person useing a katana .
9-11 terrorist used OSHA approved box cutters and look how far they got .
Sheeple ! 

[Larry L]

I think it's highly possible that guns will become illegal. Despite all of the bravado, most will voluntarily turn theirs in. Kindly remember, the Gov't is already monitoring websites like this one and they already have your IP, address, name, social security number, etc. They know right where to go to get an arm load. In the rural areas I expect the local sheriffs will not act on any restrictions until they are replaced by Gov't officials. The South will be the last to give in and many arms will just evaporate into the ground...or under ground along with loads of ammo. The next restriction is one the big Kunta has already called for and that's a universal drivers license. You will have to show the NEED for a drivers license or you can't drive. Car ownership will be like  a third world country. But that's where they're taking this nation anyway. Talk about energy savings! The issue will be no gas stations left to buy the expensive gas at. Hope you have the ability to grow a garden. When you see abnormal gains in the stock market, be ready when it falls as there will be no bottom and the BS will be on.

[mcwoodduck]

We already have a black market in firearms in this country selling the stolen guns to criminals.  It would be a problem with 4th amendment  searches in order to collect all guns and ammo.  I was talking with a guy that lived in the communist Iron Curtain of Eastern Europe and he was telling be of his father teaching him to shoot, going to the house prying up boards and getting the rifle and handgun and a supply of ammo and taking him out to shoot. 
I think you would have a problem finding all the guns stached by preppers, you would have a problem with all the instant crime and broken into houses with the stolen guns, I know my house would have all of my guns and ammo stolen just before they come to get them. 
And yes soviet countries will supply guns, as well as machine shops will make guns, look at the areas in Afganistan, that bolt actions, Aks and other guns are turned out on a daily basis in homes.  Simple machine shops and 5 ton presses cna make a lot of firearms, look at what they made Colt SAA's on and how well they are made. 
A CNC machine can make parts to make pistols and rifles quickly and easily with a little programming. 
Ammo can be made, stored, or reloaded. 

[kennyd]

the catch to the fourth, the first, and the rest, is that it takes the second make them work.   Next it will maybe transportation (cars), and definitely health care.


But as long as we have football, basketball, baseball, and mountain dew, everything will be OK.

[Ranger99]

you forgot to list video games, i phones
and satellite tv, but i think it was just
a minor oversight.

[Anna]

I think it's highly possible that guns will become illegal. Despite all of the bravado, most will voluntarily turn theirs in. Kindly remember, the Gov't is already monitoring websites like this one and they already have your IP, address, name, social security number, etc. They know right where to go to get an arm load. In the rural areas I expect the local sheriffs will not act on any restrictions until they are replaced by Gov't officials. The South will be the last to give in and many arms will just evaporate into the ground...or under ground along with loads of ammo. The next restriction is one the big Kunta has already called for and that's a universal drivers license. You will have to show the NEED for a drivers license or you can't drive. Car ownership will be like  a third world country. But that's where they're taking this nation anyway. Talk about energy savings! The issue will be no gas stations left to buy the expensive gas at. Hope you have the ability to grow a garden. When you see abnormal gains in the stock market, be ready when it falls as there will be no bottom and the BS will be on.

Funny you should mention the car thing . In the USSR each apartment block was issued one car .
There was a waiting list on when you would get to use it and a limit to your mileage via gas consumption . These cars were a total POS that were so under powered people would have to get
out and push them up a hill . Most of them didn't run anyway because they couldn't get parts plus
no one ever showed up to fix them . Each block had one phone booth , and the phones were like
they were from the Stone Age . And they are not making this country a third world country.
They are just letting a third world country invade and assimilate us into their culture with the         helping hand of our government .

[mcwoodduck]

I think it's highly possible that guns will become illegal. Despite all of the bravado, most will voluntarily turn theirs in. Kindly remember, the Gov't is already monitoring websites like this one and they already have your IP, address, name, social security number, etc. They know right where to go to get an arm load. In the rural areas I expect the local sheriffs will not act on any restrictions until they are replaced by Gov't officials. The South will be the last to give in and many arms will just evaporate into the ground...or under ground along with loads of ammo. The next restriction is one the big Kunta has already called for and that's a universal drivers license. You will have to show the NEED for a drivers license or you can't drive. Car ownership will be like  a third world country. But that's where they're taking this nation anyway. Talk about energy savings! The issue will be no gas stations left to buy the expensive gas at. Hope you have the ability to grow a garden. When you see abnormal gains in the stock market, be ready when it falls as there will be no bottom and the BS will be on.

Funny you should mention the car thing . In the USSR each apartment block was issued one car .
There was a waiting list on when you would get to use it and a limit to your mileage via gas consumption . These cars were a total POS that were so under powered people would have to get
out and push them up a hill . Most of them didn't run anyway because they couldn't get parts plus
no one ever showed up to fix them . Each block had one phone booth , and the phones were like
they were from the Stone Age . And they are not making this country a third world country.
They are just letting a third world country invade and assimilate us into their culture with the         helping hand of our government .

But everyone was equal.  One phone, one car, one toilet, one Doctor, one pharmacy, one pill,  one shot gun and two bullets to scare off robbers. Again it is all about equality, and once everyone has nothing we will all be equal. 
The vision of the country brought to you by a liberal. 

[joeinwv]

I'm not turning in anything.

When you think it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up.

[SHOOTALL]

the problem is that if you bury or otherwise hide things you may not be in a position to retrieve them when needed. No one has mentioned that there is internment camps around the nation maybe suspected gun owners could be processed thru. those ?

[blind ear]

You have to expand your thinking as to what target would have the greatest effect and how to attack it. As for self defense you might have to do as the peasants have done for ever. Stay with your community and don't trust any strangers. Going to the mall and the show/theater could become a thing of lore. If we don't have the right to self defense. ear

[Anna]

It was all equil but only in its intent on paper for the world to see . Favors were later granted to those
who were party loyalist . And those were usually immigrants brought in from Cuba or one of the
Balkin states . It was the old commie class envy thing where this is what a good commie gets and
you don't ! Its the same thing here with all the Latinos , they are the ones driving all the new cars
and getting all the jobs . Because they will work for a third of what the rest of us were accustom
to getting . And they may have a new car but they also have two to three family's all living in the
same home and that's usually a shack or a section 8 .The one on any deed or home loan is an
8 where that family is on welfair and food stamps . All the others there are just familia and are there
just visiting .   


What's funny about all this is why do all these copy's of birth certificates have the same number on
them just different names ? And hay Mi Amigo we were all born in El Paso !
So with our proper ID and our new SS # we can go out and buy the pistola ! Because even though
we look like we are 45 years old in person according to our BC we just turned 21 .
Oh they know how to play the system alright and you can bet any gov. employee that could check
on all this is either a relative, or a friend of a relative or has been bought off .
 


 

[magooch]

There is an easy cure for all of this.  Well maybe two cures: Either quit voting for commies, or maybe a nice little French type revolution would work.  Heck, even the Romanians showed the way to handle a dick tater.

[SHOOTALL]

 
 
 
It's a myth about working for a third . At least around here. In fact most Hispanics got equal or more because they produced more. When American cars were the pits back in the 70's and 80's the drop in sales of American cars was blamed on cheap labor over seas when in fact it was poor craftsmanship here . Now the lazy Americans are losing jobs because they won't work and people want to blame Hispanics .

[nw_hunter]

 
 
It's a myth about working for a third . At least around here. In fact most Hispanics got equal or more because they produced more. When American cars were the pits back in the 70's and 80's the drop in sales of American cars was blamed on cheap labor over seas when in fact it was poor craftsmanship here . Now the lazy Americans are losing jobs because they won't work and people want to blame Hispanics .

I don't blame Illegals! I blame government for enticing Americans to not work by giving them a living wage, while allowing company's to hire Illegals for cheap. Stop the Guberment dole, and put huge fines on employers who hire non Americans. When the non working Americans get hungry they will work, and the Mexican Illegals will go home to starve rather than do it in a foreign land.

Nothing just happens, the plan is working and we haven't seen nothing yet.it's been so long now I can barely remember life in the Sunny South without air conditioning and McDonald's. I'm getting ready to have my memory jogged.I think the problems with overweight Americans is about to cease.   The PTB have outgrown ruling the land of the free. They have bigger aspirations. I don't know if we will reach third world status, but we dang sure will return to being self sufficient. Just be ready to protect what you have when TSHTF. It's coming to a town near you! Not a matter of If.........Just when.

[greenmtnboy]

The only way this will be a no gun country is if people give them up.  There will be a few but I think it'll be a very small number.  The Military isnt going to do the dirty work and the local PD's wont do it, so who's left ?  A Foriegn Country ?  The Govt knows it will never work.  Im sure they enjoy reading the thoughts of all the " what ifs and maybes" tho . 
  Wait...Maybe that was the whole reason for Rodman going to N Korea,  There gonna come get em..