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N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« on: April 04, 2013, 03:17:04 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/04/north-korea-warns-military-cleared-to-wage-nuclear-attack/
 
North Korea warns military cleared to wage nuclear attack against US 
Published April 04, 2013
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 South Korea says North Korea has moved a missile with "considerable range" to its east coast after an unnamed spokesman for the North Korean army warned the U.S. Wednesday that its military has been cleared to wage an attack using "smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear" weapons.
 
South Korea's defense minister said Thursday the missile moved is not capable of hitting the United States.
Kim Kwan-jin dismissed reports in Japanese and South Korean media that the missile could be a KN-08, which is believed to be a long-range missile that if operable could hit the United States.
Kim told lawmakers at a hearing that the missile's range is considerable but not far enough to hit the U.S. mainland. He said he did not know the reasons behind the missile movement, saying it "could be for testing or drills."
The range he described could refer to a mobile North Korean missile known as the Musudan, which has a range of 1,800 miles. That would make Japan and South Korea potential targets, but little is known about the missile's accuracy.
 
North Korea has railed for weeks against joint U.S. and South Korean military exercises taking place in South Korea and has expressed anger over tightened sanctions for a February nuclear test.
The army spokesman said in a statement carried by the Korean Central News Agency that troops have been authorized to counter U.S. aggression with "powerful practical military counteractions."
National Security Council spokesperson Caitlin Hayden called the threats "unhelpful and unconstructive."
 
"It is yet another offering in a long line of provocative statements that only serve to further isolate North Korea from the rest of the international community and undermine its goal of economic development," she said. "North Korea should stop its provocative threats and instead concentrate on abiding by its international obligations."
 
The Pentagon said in Washington that it will deploy a missile defense system to the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam to strengthen regional protection against a possible attack from North Korea. The defense secretary said the U.S. was seeking to defuse the situation.
Despite the rhetoric, analysts say they do not expect a nuclear attack by North Korea, which knows the move could trigger a destructive, suicidal war that no one in the region wants.
The strident warning from Pyongyang is latest in a series of escalating threats from North Korea, which has railed for weeks against joint U.S. and South Korean military exercises taking place in South Korea and has expressed anger over tightened sanctions for a February nuclear test.
 
Following through on one threat Wednesday, North Korean border authorities refused to allow entry to South Koreans who manage jointly run factories in the North Korean city of Kaesong.
Washington calls the military drills, which this time have incorporated fighter jets and nuclear-capable stealth bombers, routine annual exercises between the allies. Pyongyang calls them rehearsals for a northward invasion.
 
The foes fought on opposite sides of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953. The divided Korean Peninsula remains in a technical state of war six decades later, and Washington keeps 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect its ally.
 
U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Washington was doing all it can to defuse the situation, echoing comments a day earlier by Secretary of State John Kerry.
"Some of the actions they've taken over the last few weeks present a real and clear danger and threat to the interests, certainly of our allies, starting with South Korea and Japan and also the threats that the North Koreans have leveled directly at the United States regarding our base in Guam, threatened Hawaii, threatened the West Coast of the United States," Hagel said Wednesday.
In Pyongyang, the military statement said North Korean troops had been authorized to counter U.S. "aggression" with "powerful practical military counteractions," including nuclear weapons.
 
"We formally inform the White House and Pentagon that the ever-escalating U.S. hostile policy toward the DPRK and its reckless nuclear threat will be smashed by the strong will of all the united service personnel and people and cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means," an unnamed spokesman from the General Bureau of the Korean People's Army said in a statement carried by state media, referring to North Korea by its formal name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. "The U.S. had better ponder over the prevailing grave situation."
 
However, North Korea's nuclear strike capabilities remain unclear.
Pyongyang is believed to be working toward building an atomic bomb small enough to mount on a long-range missile. Long-range rocket launches designed to send satellites into space in 2009 and 2012 were widely considered covert tests of missile technology, and North Korea has conducted three underground nuclear tests, most recently in February.
"I don't believe North Korea has to capacity to attack the United States with nuclear weapons mounted on missiles, and won't for many years.
 
Its ability to target and strike South Korea is also very limited," nuclear scientist Siegfried Hecker, a senior fellow at the Center for International Security and Cooperation at Stanford University, said this week.
"And even if Pyongyang had the technical means, why would the regime want to launch a nuclear attack when it fully knows that any use of nuclear weapons would result in a devastating military response and would spell the end of the regime? " he said in answers posted to CISAC's website.
 
In Seoul, a senior government official said Tuesday that it wasn't clear how advanced North Korea's nuclear weapons capabilities are. But he also noted fallout from any nuclear strike on Seoul or beyond would threaten Pyongyang as well, making a strike unlikely. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak publicly to the media.
North Korea maintains that it needs to build nuclear weapons to defend itself against the United States. On Monday, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un led a high-level meeting of party officials who declared building the economy and "nuclear armed forces" as the nation's two top priorities.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 04:27:28 AM »
Maybe there is more need to deal with NK than Iran but then it wouldn't benefit Israel to lay off on Iran. :(
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 05:07:18 AM »
North Korea is not making any sense, at least to my western way of thinking. I cannot figure out the motive. Just for attention? Some gain at home? Outright crazy? It is kind of like poking a tiger with a stick, might get away with it once or twice but once the tiger decides it has had enough they are dead meat. Do they have no real concept of what a major power could do to them if they choose too?
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 07:54:19 AM »
I believe what they know is that China will back their play and if we retaliate in kind it will begin WWWIII. Maybe that is what both North Korea and China want.


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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 08:02:48 AM »
Currently I am not so sure that China would have their back. China is heavily invested in the USA plus the trade. What benefit does China get from N Korea outside of a bit of buffer zone?
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 08:33:53 AM »
No way China will back an unsolicited nuclear launch. Kim Jong-un is just a little punk full of piss and vinegar who is acting tough to show strength. I don't think he has the stones to do anything but talk and move missles around.
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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 08:42:12 AM »
China is probably telling them they have their back.... until the opportunity arises that they can just walk in and take over................
Kim Jong is like the high school bully that picks on elementary kids...................
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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 10:08:48 AM »
I believe what they know is that China will back their play and if we retaliate in kind it will begin WWWIII. Maybe that is what both North Korea and China want.

would it be safe to say Cuba in reverse ?
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 01:24:59 PM »
Maybe is has been born again and wants the rapture in his lifetime.  There is plenty of that going around I hear.

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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 08:38:14 PM »
Living in Alaska I hope that nut's rockets can't reach here. Do wonder what he's up to.  And I  believe that saving face is essential in that part of the world so he may have to do something before all this settles.  I wish he'd settle down but what can you expect of a spoiled 29 yr old who likely believes he's the center of the universe.


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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2013, 04:31:48 AM »
 So what will happen if he launches a missile in the direction of a US holding or a ally ? We shoot it down then what ? No real need to attack is there ?
 So why would he ? Why would China be massing troops on Koreas border ? Could a missile shot be a probe of our ability ?
 Is there any real risk to NK ? Could we miss the counter strike on the missile in flight ?
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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2013, 04:42:12 AM »
I doubt any of this would be happening if we had a strong leader who wouldn't stand for any nonsense from an insane little dick tater prick.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2013, 09:03:19 AM »
Not counting Nepal, how many soldiers lost or military intervention games played by China since the Korean fiasco?  I can't think of any. Compared to what peaceloving group??
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 03:47:56 AM »
NK just wants more money , they hold up the world like this everytime they get short on cash .
But the world isn't big enough for two crazy dictators so Obama has to show them who is the boss
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 04:41:45 AM »
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Re: N Korea approves nuke strike, moves missle.
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2013, 06:19:48 AM »
The Chinese have openly hinted that NK's actions are not "kewl". That was for the public, what their message to NK ears only was may be much different.
 
TM7, I didn't think of the Israeli connection in that way, makes sense but is Obama the guy to do it if he had the personal choice which I doubt he has.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2013, 09:54:29 AM »
I think we need to take them at their word and attack before they do have a chance to launch a nuke. They seem to claim they can do it, why wait and see? Oh yea, O'Bummer hasn't got the balls!

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2013, 05:30:50 PM »
This was tried back in the 50th and somehow didn't work out all that well at the Chosin Reservoir
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2013, 04:17:48 AM »
This was tried back in the 50th and somehow didn't work out all that well at the Chosin Reservoir

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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2013, 04:44:37 AM »
It is being reported that the commander of navel forces in the area is saying the tension has not been greater since the war. Also China stopped not restricted travel to NK. The commander also said a launch seems most likely. But noted The USA could contain the launch(s).
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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2013, 04:48:14 AM »


That is Rich! he said while choking on laughter.
 
I really dont think the chicoms will allow anything to happen that they dont want to happen. They, unlike our elite intelligence group, know exactly what the Koreans have the capability of.
 
OH and dont even think of a preemptive strike. We would have to sit through another anniversary of the lie that started the New Korean war thread.   ::)  IF the Chicoms dont spank us and we have to sue for peace. I aint feeling the confidence I used to have in our commander in chief
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