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Offline huntwithme2

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security-six
« on: December 07, 2012, 08:11:11 AM »
  i have a security six in 357 with 4 inch barrel.  my problem is the back sight won't move any more.  it shoots two inches low and two inches to the left at twenty yards.  is there some kind of a red dot that will fit this gun that works good.
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Re: security-six
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 12:53:54 AM »
Have you looked for a replacement sight? Mounting a red dot on this gun would require gunsmith modifications. I'd start by contacting Ruger. For what it's worth, low left bullet strikes are frequently caused by jerking the trigger with right handed shooters. Good luck!
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Re: security-six
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 10:39:39 AM »
Since a suggestion has been made regarding the windage issue, I will make one regarding the elevation.  You didn't say if you handload or are using factory loads, but to raise the point of impact, either go to a heavier bullet or slow it down slightly.  This is how I adjust POI on my fixed sight handguns.  Also, I would replace the sights just in case a previous owner may have messed them up, instead of going to a red dot or other optic if it was mine.  I also have a 4" Security Six and that is one great gun.

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Re: security-six
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 10:26:32 AM »
thanks for the info     i did handload these rounds    they are 125 grn bullets.   i gues i'll try to change the sights for now.  my handgun shooting isn't the greatest.

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Re: security-six
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 10:42:47 AM »
Good advice posted above.  Since you reload, try heavier 158 grain bullets, that may help your elevation issue, and possibly help with the windage as well.  Another option r/e the windage issue is to file the rear sight blade a little wider on the right side if you continue to shoot left.  It will bring your groups right, and if you mess it up, rear sight blades are cheap and easy to replace.  If you are dead set on installing a red dot, I think B-Square used to make a no gunsmithing mount for the Security Six at one time, though I doubt they still do, do to the time this gun has been out of production.  A good gunsmith could drill and tap the top strap for not to much $.  A good red dot sight can do wonders for shooters who's eyesight is not what it used to be..
 
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Re: security-six
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 08:38:54 AM »
this may sound kind of dumb but when i shoot with a pistol i hold it in my right hand and closs my right eye. would it work better if i close my left eye instead.

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Re: security-six
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 11:17:30 AM »
You should aim with your dominant eye.  Try this.  Make a fist, and hold it up in front of you.  Raise your thumb.  Pick an object a distance away, and line up your thumb with that object, both eyes open.  While holding your thumb steady, close your right eye, then open it and close your left eye.  Whichever eye keeps your thumb on target is dominate.  You should aim with that eye, unless the vision in it is poorer then your non-dominate eye.  Most shooters shooting for accuracy tend to close their non shooting eye while aiming, though many, especially those trained in combat type shooting tend to keep both eyes open to help maintain situational awareness.
 
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Re: security-six
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 03:34:07 PM »
Something else to check.  Look very closely at the barrel to mke sure that it is centered.  By centered,  I mean is it screwed in either too far or not far enough.  This will cause the front sight to lean eithe right or left.  I've had two revolvers that had this condition.  The latest was a brand new sp101 22.  Factory corrected this.  Gun Parts used to sell different sights for the security six.
 
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Re: security-six
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2013, 08:00:10 AM »
Something else to check.  Look very closely at the barrel to mke sure that it is centered.  By centered,  I mean is it screwed in either too far or not far enough.  This will cause the front sight to lean eithe right or left.  I've had two revolvers that had this condition.  The latest was a brand new sp101 22.  Factory corrected this.  Gun Parts used to sell different sights for the security six.
 
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This is a real possibility.  I had a Redhawk with the same issue, and you couldn't tell just by eye-balling it.  I sent it in to Ruger and they re-set the barrel - problem solved.

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Re: security-six
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2013, 05:26:25 PM »
I also have a Ruger Security 6.   I got it used in virtually new condition.   Everything about the gun looks Ok.   The barrel seems screwed in properly, the front sight is apparently straight, however, it shoots consistently to the left.   I have the rear sight moved all the way to the right.

It shoots the same with factory ammo or my 158gr handloads.   It shoots the same if it is me shooting it or a relative who shoots competitively.

My problem is, I just don't see any possible fix for it.   (short of cutting a dove tail in the barrel and putting on a different type of front sight.

Any  suggestions?

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Re: security-six
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2013, 05:45:16 PM »
I also have a Ruger Security 6.   I got it used in virtually new condition.   Everything about the gun looks Ok.   The barrel seems screwed in properly, the front sight is apparently straight, however, it shoots consistently to the left.   I have the rear sight moved all the way to the left.

It shoots the same with factory ammo or my 158gr handloads.   It shoots the same if it is me shooting it or a relative who shoots competitively.

My problem is, I just don't see any possible fix for it.   (short of cutting a dove tail in the barrel and putting on a different type of front sight.

Any  suggestions?

 
Move your rear sight to the right.
 
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Re: security-six
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2013, 11:48:57 AM »
Lol, I have it moved all the way to the right.   I misspoke when I said "left".    It is all the way to the right and still shoots to the left.    I'll edit the post.

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Re: security-six
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2013, 06:22:51 PM »
I have seen "Blank" rear sight leafs (forget off hand who makes them)  where you use a file to cut your own notch in the blade - to the right of center in your case.  Another option is to have a local gun smith turn the barrel slightly, a common practice to bring fixed sighted six guns to POA.  Sending it back to Ruger for inspection / repair is also a good idea.  Even though discontinued, they will work on it, and if you call first and ask, they may even send you a pre-paid mailing label for UPS .  Ruger is good about fixing manufacturing defects.
 
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Re: security-six
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 02:49:44 PM »
Thanks Larry, I think the best thing for me to do is to look into sending it back to Ruger and let them look at it.  I really think it is a manufacturing defect, in the barrel or in the frame.

Thanks again

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Re: security-six
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 03:12:16 PM »
I would say fix it, weather this is a matter of sending it back to Ruger or another gunsmith of your choice.  I have one and wish I could find another that I can afford.