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Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« on: January 01, 2013, 10:34:35 AM »
Morning Folks, I have not posted here for Ages and I thought I'd post about a Hunt I just arrived  back from out near St George which is about 700 Kilometres West of Brisbane Queensland. I was Hunting with my good  Mate "Evil Dave". Now Evil shoots a Compound and is the best and most knowledable Hunter I have ever seen. He teaches me something each and every Hunt !!!!!!!!!

The Weather was a little funny for this time of Year !!! There where Thunder Storms in the Days Prior to the Hunt which lead to High Humidity.  It got Hot enough Saturday Arvo that I felt Crook from the Heat and my Heart was not in the Hunt, walked away from Shot opportunities. It got "Cold Cold" about 3.30 every Morning, a little Rain while we where in a back Paddock. Full Moon so bright you could see Colour, The Wind Blowing steady 20 Knots most of Sunday Night and Monday until mid afternoon which had the Game on Edge and in thick cover - no point Hunting. The Wind was Gusting to 30 Knots.
 
When we left for Home at 5.30 am Yesterday– naturally it was perfect Weather for Hunting in the semi Desert conditions. There was also Fires in the district. There had until we decided to go Bush been a bit of a Poor Season but the Storms had Green Pick sprouted everywhere and Water Pooled on the Ground in all the Paddocks. The Tracks where Sloppy enough to restrict our access Saturday morning but dried enough by the Arvo that we could access enough of the property and not tear up the Tracks.
 
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The Storms had brought on a Rut and it was not hard to find the Goats, just stand and listen. As you can see from the photo’s we shot a couple of respectable Goats, sadly small Bodied and the Horns looked Bigger on the Hoof than they Scored when they hit the Ground, mine went 31 1/2 Spread, just under 91Douglas Points. First Arrow through the Heart at 10 metres and 2 more unnecessary Arrows as he ran quartering away, he made it 15 Yards. No great shakes with a stalk, basically I marched up to Him using minimal Cover, stood still for a few minutes waiting for a Shot as he gave a smaller Billy a Hiding who had Challenged his Authority.
 
I did not bring the Horns Home as I have a Rule to try not to shoot anything smaller than Australian Bowhunting Association Trophy Class for Goats of 95 Douglas Points unless I’m going to eat it. I was not looking for a Skin. It was the Rut and this was the Boss Billy in the Mob and all the testosterone charged Teenagers where challenging Him in-between Raping Nanny’s and he would have been Rank.

After Hunting for 20 Years with Selfbows I am impressed with my new Grozer Magyar Bio Composite Asiatic Recurve. It is Sinew Backed and has a Horn Belly. It zapped Arrows through that Goat like you would not believe a 45# Traditional Bow capable of !!.  I used my Hand Planed Queensland Quandong Barrelled Shaft, Vented Black Stump Broadhead 540 gr Mass.
 
As for Dave’s Goat It took us 45 minutes to sneak into  a Mob of 400 plus Goats scattered about a lightly Wooded Clearing. I bailed as it was getting too risky with so many Eyes. As I sat under a Shady Tree and watched Daves progress at times Goats fed / walked or Rutted only a couple metres from where I was sitting. A Billy soorly tempted me with an easy Shot but I let him be as I judged him about the same size as the Billy I shot earlier.

Daves Billy was Running from Nanny to Nanny, picking Fights, fighting of Challenges and the whole time keeping an Eye on Dave. Eventually after a hard and Skillfull Stalk Evil shot his Goat through the front of the Chest. This was the biggest Goat we saw on the Trip, had a 33 1/2' Spread and due to his deep Curles Green Scored near 96 Douglas Points.
 
We shot them about 2 Kilometres apart in the same Paddock. I shot mine Sunday Morning and Dave’s Monday Arvo. I shot my Billy slightly uphill from where Dave shot his. As you can tell from the Buffel Grass and Herb Ground Cover the low part of the Paddock copped better Rain during the Storms. 

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We saw Echidna’s on Sunday Morning and Monday Arvo at different ends of the Property, only ever seen 1 or 2 others in 30 Years of Hunting. If you look closely you can see the Echidna sneaking a Look. Those bits sticking out are it's hind Legs. We could not access the Pig Paddock until late Sunday due to the Wet and only saw 5 or 6 Pigs for the Weekend, unfortunately no luck

regards Jacko
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2013, 11:00:06 AM »
loved hearing the story of your hunt! is that enchida related to our north american porcupine?or more like a hedgehog?im from missouri so we dont have them here,

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2013, 12:36:24 AM »
G/Day hillbill. Echidna's like Platypus are Egg Laying Mammals and are also Marsupials. After the Egg hatches the Young are Reared in a Pouch. They eat Termites, Ants and the like. I know Aboriginals call them Porcupines and reckon they are Good Tucker, I'm curious what they taste like too  ;D  but the Authorities take a dim view of such things. Other than being Mammals they are not related to Porcupines or Hedgehogs
regards Jacko
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2013, 06:01:16 AM »
Small bodied or not, you did well, Jacko. Some great pics there. I usually see echidnas about quite often. Might be the region I live in. I see plenty of wombats too. Geez, do I need to get out in the hills again after billies. And I'll have my new rifle to test in a week or 2.....another Tikka T3 Lite Stainless, this time in 7mm-08. Just need to get me a PTA to go pay it off.
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.22lr ~ 22 Hornet ~ 25-20 ~ 303/25 ~ 7mm-08 ~ 303 British ~ 310 Cadet ~ 9.3x62 ~ 450/400 NE 3"

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2013, 10:53:27 AM »
Morning Kombi, yeah Mate perhaps I walk around with Eyes only for Ferals. The last Echidna I saw Hunting was in the Northern New England in the 80's. You see the odd one on the Roads and such but not in the Scrub. Never seen a Wombat in the Scrub, I know there is a pocket of them around St George in a Reserve. Wish I could say the same for Roo's - I have never seen so many as we did this long weekend.
 
Look forward to a review on your new Tikka T3, game pics included. I still have not blooded my 303.35. I need to plan a dedicated Trip with it. My Bows always seen come out of the Case first.
 
regards Jacko
 
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2013, 02:42:48 PM »
That doesn't surprise me about the roos. All you need is a little rain & they're (censored word) EVERYWHERE!! A pity about the wombats & echidnas though.

But you haven't blooded the 303/35?? :o That's crazy! I can't remember seeing pics. Did you do a thread? ???
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.22lr ~ 22 Hornet ~ 25-20 ~ 303/25 ~ 7mm-08 ~ 303 British ~ 310 Cadet ~ 9.3x62 ~ 450/400 NE 3"

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2013, 11:58:53 PM »
I'm sure I did somewhere on Greybeard, here's a pic - I've since added a Leupold VX3 1 -5 X 20. Shooting a mild load at present 260 gr Cast Bullets @1886 FPS. I know I can up the load to 2100 fps with no leading but Case life is excellent at this level - 7 reloads no Case Stretch. Its No1 Mk3 Lithgow and it is capable of MOA if I do my part

I'm unhappy with the Synthetic stock and would loe a fiqured Timber Stock but there are more important things to spend money on unfortunately.
"To my deep mortification my father once said to me, "You care for nothing but shooting, dogs and rat catching, and you will be a disgrace to yourself and all your family."

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 04:23:34 AM »
Personally I think that looks really cool but I understand why you feel that way about the stock. Meanwhile, time to whack a goat or pig with one of those 260gr cast suckers! Haven't considered loading it up with 225gr FPs have you?
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 10:55:59 AM »
I was shooting 225 gr Sierra Gamekings but at over $1 per Projectile Vs a bit of my time and a Carton of Bourbon and Cola per 50 Kg of Wheel Weights for a Cast Projectile its no contest. I have 50 225 Jacked Proj loads sitting here but the Point of Impact is so different I would need to re sight the Rifle

regards Jacko
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »
I was shooting 225 gr Sierra Gamekings but at over $1 per Projectile Vs a bit of my time and a Carton of Bourbon and Cola per 50 Kg of Wheel Weights for a Cast Projectile its no contest. I have 50 225 Jacked Proj loads sitting here but the Point of Impact is so different I would need to re sight the Rifle

regards Jacko

your doin like a lot of hillbillys like me are doing here in the US.going to cast bullets.ive used them in all my pistols for years with good luck but havent stepped up to useing them in rifles other than black powder.
 
do you use gas checks?id like to come up with a rifle round with cast i could use in say a 6.5x55 or 30-06 for hunting deer.do you size them? im useing lee tumble lube bullets in my pistols but i dont think i can use them for rifle loads.

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 11:41:39 PM »
Evening hillbill
I use either Gator or Hornady Gas Checks. I have found no difference in accuracy. I have also bought some Alluminium Gas Checks to try out as they are very cheap and I'm considering getting a Gas Check Making Tool like Pat Marlins or Free Chexs. I have not loaded any Alluminium Checks yet. I use Air Cooled Wheel Weight Alloy sized to .359. My Bore is .357 and I have had the Leade reamed to fit these Proj. Surprisingly the 225 gr Sierra's stil Shot MOA after the Leade was Reamed.
I use a Cast Bullet Engineering Mould. I find White Label Carnuba Red mixed 50/50 with Beeswax fantastic Lube. Lee Liquid Alox cut with Lanotec Liquid Lanolin also gives me top results. I do tumble lube the Projectiles in Lanotec Liquid Lanolin before and after Sizing.
Have also played with Lyman 358315 206 gr Mould. It has a Bore Riding Nose and shoots very well despite at the time I only had access to a .358 Sizing Die
I use Ranchdog Moulds and Lee Liquid Alox cut with Lanotec Liquid Lanolin for my .357 and .44 Mag Rifle Loads with great sucess
regards Jacko
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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 01:15:49 PM »
Thanks for posting about your hunt.  Always enjoy reading about hunting in other parts of the world.
 
Nice rifle too - a No.1 was the first centerfire rifle I ever owned!  Foolishly traded it off when I was younger, but still have a No.4 (not as smooth as a No.1) that I occasionally use on our whitetail deer, works good.
Just read you're having quite a heat wave down there and some wildfires.  Hope none in your area.
Snow on the ground here and temp this morning was 17 degrees F, warmed up to around 30 F in afternoon.  Maybe slightly above average, but close to normal for January here.

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Re: Just back from a succesful Goat Hunt
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2013, 01:27:24 AM »
G/Day Spruce, gotta love them Lee Enfields and the .303 Brit and it's Variants.

It's hot here but not oppressivly so. Getting up to 38 degrees 60% Humidity. Other parts of the Country are really copping it, Max temperatures in the 40's every day this Year, minimums above 30 degree's and add hot dry Winds blowing in from the Centre where 50 degree's has been recorded and it's terrible. Highest Australian Daily average Temperature since the Weather Records began has been Broken a couple of times this week

There is an out of control Bushfire about 20 Kilometres from here on Bribie Island but unless embers Jump Pommistone Passage and get into the Pine Plantations and State Forest it should come under control with a favourable wind change predicted tomorrow. No reports of any significant Property Damage. Other parts of the Country have taken a big hit, particularly in Tasmania, please share a thought and a Prayer for those affected

Dave and I picked a good time to go Hunting. Since our Hunt the Temperatures have Soared and numerous fires have started in a wide swath of territory near and to the West. Poor buggers, Drought, Floods, Bad Seasons, Fires - never stops for them. Tough People and still the Salt of the Earth

regards Jacko
 
"To my deep mortification my father once said to me, "You care for nothing but shooting, dogs and rat catching, and you will be a disgrace to yourself and all your family."

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