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Wray Selden Studio's
« on: May 24, 2013, 01:03:00 AM »
Wray Selden Studios was a Richmond VA photo studio that in the 1950's produces post cards of the the various historic sights in the area.

In the civil war display at the Dr. Mudd farm hangs this large picture  by Wray Seldon Studio's.  This is a picture of a diorama of a civil war ship-to shore battle.  Some help is needed with the picture.

Does any one have any knowledge of what specific action the this picture  displays?

The photo is of a diorama, does anyone know where this diorama  is/was?









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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 04:49:04 AM »
     I believe the naval and shore action depicted in the diorama is the "Battle of Trent's Reach" in the James river.  There are two major clues that make me believe that.  One is that Union artillerymen are shown manning the shore battery which assumes Confederate vessels are heading for the obstructions in the river made up of sunken ships, etc.  If this diorama shows action on the James, then this must be the battle, as there was only one in which the shore batteries were manned by Federal troops.  We have read several Civil War Naval books which included this battle, but the Wiki version is fairly accurate and is a quick read:

                                                   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trent%27s_Reach

     The other big clue is the boom at the end of the reach, the entire length of which was covered by Federal seacoast artillery.  In the sketch below, you can see the technical layout of the Federal river obstruction, both what is shown in the diorama and what lay just beneath the James River's surface. 

Credit:  Wikipedia,  "Battle of Trent's Reach"




     This attack by Confederate naval forces was the most audacious of the entire war.  With 3 ironclads, 3 spar torpedo boats and several other gunboats this force could have wrought extensive destruction on Grant's supply base at City Point, Virginia, the target of this powerful squadron if the low tide around the boom had not immobilized three CSN vessels.  It was a fierce, two day battle, with one Reble ironclad taking over 70 hits from the Union shore batteries including two 100 Pdr, Parrott rifles and the double turreted monitor, Onondaga and several gunboats.  When they were refloated with the incoming tide, the CSN flotilla withdrew up river minus two vessels one of which blew up and both of which sank.

We could be wrong about all of this, but it sure looks like the one. 

Mike and Tracy
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 02:59:06 PM »
That sounds like what the fellow was describing. 

How about the Diorama?  any Ideas where it my be/have been?

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2013, 04:52:11 AM »
Another very good picture here called The Battle of Drewry's Bluff
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13150208@N05/7224044426/in/pool-32175857@N00/
Diorama                                  Diorama                      Dioramahttp://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/hh/33/hh33e.htm

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 11:37:26 PM »
Good work skidmark. Notwithstanding the blue and red postcard colorization, I believe those are Rebel artillerymen manning a Confederate Columbiad.
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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 06:39:30 AM »
     Now there is a challenge!  Although I know right now which version is correct, I'm a little disappointed that you fellows don't have more proof than artwork of some battery on some river and the casting of aspersions on the colorization artist of a photo of a diorama.  However, we are reminded of one of Lincoln's old homilies, the one in which he said, "I am thinking about what the girl who put her hand to the bottom of her stocking said, "I believe there is something in it.""  Later we will play our ace-in-the-hole card.  Right now I have to do family stuff.

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I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 11:52:12 PM »
If it was a Wray Selden Post card it would say on the back like his others. The exact same image is used by the NPS.
Maybe that Picture on the wall is a giant postcard, Flip it over and see if there is a giant stamp. ;D
Don't have any cards in my socks but do have some metal chips, ouch!

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 10:29:45 AM »
   Well looks like skidmark solved that one.  The triple whammy that made us think about the other location a few miles down stream at Trent's Reach was the fact that,as we walked the ground at Fort Darling on Drewry's Bluff on two different occasions, we were directed down to the south-eastern most end of the earthen fort to the number one battery where an 8" Columbiad is mounted today on a wood, seacoast, center-pintle, barbette carriage built by the Paulson Brothers.  If you look right down the tube as if sighting the gun, you will be looking straight down the reach, without seeing the bend to the left from which the diorama gunner was firing.  He was probably firing from battery 2 or perhaps 3 from the right.  So our views of this location in 2004 and 2008 did not look like the diorama at all.  You see the NPS is reluctant to remove all those oak and maple trees which have grown very large after the lumber harvest in the 20s and 30s, so the other batteries along the bluff are closed off by dense brush and forest, thereby rendering the James invisible from those positions.

     Although the colorization of the gun crews uniforms was confusing, the secret map of the obstructions at Trent's Reach was most misleading.  As it turns out it was drawn from the view point of the torpedo hut on Farrar's Island opposite the Federal gun batteries, NOT below the batteries as we had supposed.  The misled (us) were informed after we found a battle history in photos, the link to which is below.  All in all a very educational experience!  A few pics below of these areas might be of interest to those who like historical geography.

Tracy and Mike


Mike Bonapart stands next to the  8" Columbiad in Fort Darling's Battery No.1 on the James River.




Looking straight down the reach, Rebel artillerymen could place plunging fire on any ship Union naval forces sent to challenge them, which they did to great effect when a Federal flotilla hove into view in '62.  The Federal ironclads Galena, the Monitor and the Naugatuck, With three other gunboats helping out, attacked the battery on the bluff and brave men on both sides dueled with 9" Dahlgrens pulled from the scuttled ship CSS Virginia and 100 pdr. Parrotts on the Galena and Naugatuck, with 32 pdr. on the gunboats and Brooke rifles on the bluff and a four gun battery of 8 and 10 inch Columbiads from the earthworks as well.  The Galena was sieved and 14 sailors lost and many wounded.





This pic from some trip advisor site we can't remember the name of shows you an almost identical view down the reach from the Drewry's Bluff columbiad in winter after the trees have lost their foliage.  A nice clear view, it is.






This was the main problem with the  Trent's Reach  geographical orientation.  What you can't see here is the note which we found with the secret sketch of the Federal obstructions at Trent's Reach.  It read: Upriver is to the right.  The is logical, because where else would you put your large torpedos (mines), than upriver on the side of expected attack.  The assumption we made was that the Federal gun batteries were on the same side of the river as the torpedo hut.  NOT TRUE!!  This hut is across the river on low, marshy ground, overgrown with thickets and small trees opposite the batteries which were high above the steep river bank.  Re-posted for clarity.




This sketch is what we found later and it clearly shows where Farrar's Island is, within Trent's Reach and the impossibility of positioning the Federal battery to fire over the obstructions as shown in the diorama.  Wish we had this before making any pronouncement!






     Here is the link to the real story in photos of the Confederate Navy's Ironclad Attack on Grant's supply base at City Point, Virginia.
Some of these photos have never been published elsewhere before.  Credit is due for this excellent series to the Virginia Dept. of Historic Resources and to:    The Confederate Navy's Bold Gamble to Cut Off the Union Army's Supply Base at City Point, January 23-24, 1865  New views of old images cropped and annotated by Taft Kiser, Archaeologist, Cultural Resources Inc., Richmond.


                                    http://www.dhr.virginia.gov/SlideShows/TrentsReach/TrentsReachTitleslide.html


     Some day we will walk this ground among the oxbows and the ground of the Confederate batteries new Howlett's farm including the well known Battery Dantzler, from which a large Brooke rifle occasionally blasted a special greeting to the monitor Onondaga's crew, far below on the muddy James.

Mike and Tracy


       
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: Wray Selden Studio's
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2013, 04:17:50 AM »
The above subject picture hangs in the civil war display in a tobacco barn on the  Dr.  Mudd farm in Maryland. 

The  Mudd farm is a private museum operated by the Dr. Samuel Mudd Society.  Dr.  Mudd is of course the doctor who treated  John Wilkes  Booth after he assassinated Abraham Lincoln.  http://www.americanheritage.com/content/dr-samuel-mudd-house

The picture belongs to a member who was unsure of what it was or depicted.  I have passed the information you have provided about the picture to the owner. 

The picture owner sends his thanks.