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« on: February 23, 2004, 05:39:40 PM »
Got a email about guns that look like cell phones any one ever hear of this I emailed him back as a joke and asked where do you get one.  :lol:  Would be kinda cool though if such a critter is out there. Jim

 If you get asked to test your cell phone at the airport, this is the
> reason.
> >
> >  Because cell phone guns have been discovered. The attached video clip
>
> > shows how cell phone guns operate. These phones are not in the U.S.
> yet,
> > but they are in use overseas. Beneath the digital phone face is
> > a...22-caliber handgun capable of firing four rounds in rapid
> succession
> > using the standard telephone keypad. European law enforcement
> officials
> > are stunned by the discovery of these deadly decoys. They say phone
> guns
> > are changing the rules of engagement in Europe. "We find it very
> > alarming," says Wolfgang
> >
> >  Dicke of the German Police Union. "It means police will have to draw
> > their weapons whenever a person being checked reaches for their cell
> phone."
> >
> >  Although cell phone guns are not known to have reached the U.S. yet,
> the
> > FBI, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the U.S. Customs
> Service
> > say they have been briefed on the new weapons. All U.S. ports of entry
>
> > have been alerted.
> >
> >  These covert weapons were first discovered in October of 2000 when
> Dutch
> > police came upon a cache during a drug raid in Amsterdam. In another
> > recent incident, a Croatian gun dealer was caught attempting to
> smuggle a
> > shipment through Slovenia into Western Europe. Police say both
> shipments
> > are believed to have originated in Yugoslavia ... Interpol sent a
> warning
> > to law enforcement agencies around the world. "If you didn't know they
>
> > were guns, you would think they were cell phones," said Ari
> Zandbergen, a
> > spokesperson for the Amsterdam police. "Only when you have one in your
>
> > hand do you realize that they are heavier than a regular cell phone."
> Be
> > patient if security asks to look at your cell phone or turn it on to
> show
> > that it works. They have a good reason!
> >  <<CELLPH_2.MPG>>
>
> Javier Sandoval
Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2004, 05:59:19 PM »
Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2004, 06:06:29 PM »
Gee, didn't Captain Kirk have one of those? Seriously though, I enjoy experimenting with and making concealment devices for handguns. One of the most promising was a dummy phone and holster to conceal a derringer. Guess I can scrap that idea.

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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2004, 06:22:43 PM »
The cell phone guns do indeed exist, and depending upon the level of security you encounter. Your cell phone will be examined.

If asked just comply with the request some points of entry in foreign countries have ABSOLUTELY no sense of humor on the subject.

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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2004, 02:07:38 AM »
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Gee, didn't Captain Kirk have one of those? Seriously though, I enjoy experimenting with and making concealment devices for handguns. One of the most promising was a dummy phone and holster to conceal a derringer.
Dali Llama say he hear  :lol: there exist dummy pager that conceal small .22 or .25 calibre automatic pistol... :lol:
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2004, 02:57:53 AM »
Cops in New York have shot people with real cell phones thinking it was a gun.Now the cops will have a good reason to shoot.Real phone or not?

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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2004, 08:12:13 AM »
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Cops in New York have shot people with real cell phones thinking it was a gun.Now the cops will have a good reason to shoot.
Dali Llama say that may result in eradication of few more vermin. :-)
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2004, 10:38:45 AM »
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Cops in New York have shot people with real cell phones thinking it was a gun.Now the cops will have a good reason to shoot.
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Dali Llama say that may result in eradication of few more vermin. :-)

Your wisdom confounds me Dali Llama.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2004, 02:31:59 PM »
Congress passed a law shortly after law enforcement discovered pistols disguised as pagers.

The law states something like this:

A firearm may not be disguised as any other object but a firearm.  Simply put..... If it's a gun, it must look like a gun.  Years ago Belt Buckles with little detachable .22 revolvers were common, along with single shot .22 pens.  But not any more.


Therefore, seeing a firearm disguised as a cellphone, pager or anything else for sale within the USA is minimal.  That doesn't mean there won't be a blackmarket or foreign visitors who have access to them.  All it means is that honest dealers and owners won't have anything to do with them.  On the other hand, I wouldn't want to get caught with one.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2004, 03:40:29 PM »
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Congress passed a law shortly after law enforcement discovered pistols disguised as pagers.

The law states something like this:

A firearm may not be disguised as any other object but a firearm.  Simply put..... If it's a gun, it must look like a gun.  Years ago Belt Buckles with little detachable .22 revolvers were common, along with single shot .22 pens.  But not any more.


Therefore, seeing a firearm disguised as a cellphone, pager or anything else for sale within the USA is minimal.  That doesn't mean there won't be a blackmarket or foreign visitors who have access to them.  All it means is that honest dealers and owners won't have anything to do with them.  On the other hand, I wouldn't want to get caught with one.
Dali Llama say operative word be "caught"....  :eek: :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :eek:
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2004, 06:15:37 PM »
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Congress passed a law shortly after law enforcement discovered pistols disguised as pagers.

The law states something like this:

A firearm may not be disguised as any other object but a firearm.  Simply put..... If it's a gun, it must look like a gun.  Years ago Belt Buckles with little detachable .22 revolvers were common, along with single shot .22 pens.  But not any more.


Therefore, seeing a firearm disguised as a cellphone, pager or anything else for sale within the USA is minimal.  That doesn't mean there won't be a blackmarket or foreign visitors who have access to them.  All it means is that honest dealers and owners won't have anything to do with them.  On the other hand, I wouldn't want to get caught with one.


The problem is that a terrorist isn’t worried about breaking this law, or 100 other laws, while they are trying to kill as many of us as they can and then die themselves.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2004, 06:43:35 PM »
The 22 pens are out there and still being sold openly so there must be a loop hole there some where??? What about guns hidden in pagers for concealed carry???? The belt buckle guns I should think would be legal as they are in plain sight unless you have a belly like mine  :roll:  so you have open carry with them?? I am not doubting you as I never read the law but just going on what I have seen. Jim
Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2004, 01:33:26 AM »
I have 1 of the belt buckle guns that I've had for 30 or so years and still wear it often.  I can't see how anyone can call this design anything but a gun disguised as a gun.

As far as the cell phone guns go, I'd like to give one to some drivers around here.  Push a button, lose an ear!   :eek:   Then they might pay more attention to their driving.

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2004, 08:16:40 AM »
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The 22 pens are out there and still being sold openly
Dali Llama say he have not seen one, and wonder if jh45gun could direct him to web information regarding same?
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2004, 03:25:17 PM »
I stand corrected.

They could very well be classified as Class 3 weapons.  A very expensive license.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2004, 03:31:59 PM »
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Dali, Check out www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976221477.htm
Dali Llama say he employ link and peruse "gun," 8)  and appreciate provision of same by dodgecity. :D
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