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Offline hansg/Ups

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460 Rowland or 10mm in a Glock or 1911?
« on: May 11, 2013, 10:36:50 AM »
Any perspectives,experience,etc. on converting a Glock or 1911 to 460 Rowland or 10mm? Seems like there are good points to both cartridges.
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Re: 460 Rowland or 10mm in a Glock or 1911?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2013, 11:30:18 AM »
I vote Glock...

I love the 1911 platform.. but its built for a bit less pressure than either of these... building it with fully supported barrels will do allot but for about 400 you can have a used Glock with twice the rounds and a bit more gets you a barrel in the 460.

EITHER is a good choice in calibers..

I went 6'' 10mm G20 myself.  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: 460 Rowland or 10mm in a Glock or 1911?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 05:53:01 AM »
Don't throw out the .45 Super either.  More than the 10mm, not quite a 460 Rowland.   I load for it and I'm impressed with it for sure.  The .45 Super and 460 Rowland don't really shine with .45 ACP designed bullets because they throw them too fast, possible exception being the 230gr XTP.   Some .45 Colt revolver bullets work well in them, and IMHO that's where they shine.

I use a G4 G21 with KKM 4 port compensated barrel and a 22lb recoil spring assembly.  The barrel with threading is right at 5" in length, and in the .45 Super I can load up 230gr JHP around 1,250 fps, a 250gr JHP (XTP or Speer Gold Dot) to around 1175 fps, or a big ole 275gr hardcast to 1150 fps which is 800 ft-lbs with an almost 300gr bullet.  The same setup shoots regular .45 ACP just fine, but recoils a good bit less.

The 460R is a good idea, but unless you reload for it you're never going to get the ost out of it since shooting .45 ACP bullets 50%+ faster is just useless, your penetration is going to suffer.  10mm is okay, but I don't think it's quite to the level of potential the .45 Super and 460 Rowland offers.  But if you have no intention of loading your own, maybe the 10mm is a better option for you, 10mm is expensive, but 460R ammo is a lot more pricey.

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Re: 460 Rowland or 10mm in a Glock or 1911?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2013, 05:49:33 AM »
Slightly off-topic  - I apologize. But I've wondered why somebody doesn't re-cut the chamber of a 460 Rowland barrel to give it more leade, the goal being to allow the use of WFN-like bullet profiles?

I know the magazine isn't going to allow much past 1.27", and I know that the slidestop can engage unless specially modified. But a stock 45acp only gives you .020" leade and a rather sharp angle to the rifling.

It seems to me, (and I'm no expert here at all), that some work on the barrel could make the Rowland work with some 250'ish grain WFN's. And that would give it an edge over 4" 44mag - 8 fast shots and a fast reload.



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Re: 460 Rowland or 10mm in a Glock or 1911?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2013, 06:41:18 AM »
How does the .460 Rowland hold up in a 1911 platform? How much extra pressure does it subject it to? I tried looking it up once on the net with not much results.
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