Enfield P14 (remington remake)

[13 Bravo]

Does the Sight base for the Enfield Mk IV's and so on also work for P14 and M1917 rifles as well?

I have an P14 remake and I want to scope it up.

Also what would be a good scope to put on it? I'm thinking a Unertl varmint 12x.

[Mikey]

13 Bravo:  No, those two rifles you mentioned are entirely different animals and parts do not interchange.

The P14 and P17 rifles made by Winchester and Remington are similar, with the P14 designed for the rimmed British 303 cartridge and the P17 designed for the 30-06 cartridge.

The SMLE (Short Magazine Lee Enfields - hence the confusion with the 'Enfield' terminology) were designed only for the 303 British round and the actions are not as strong as the P14/17 actions.  They are entirely different actions.

The scope mounts for the SMLE #4 Mk1, No1 Mk3, or the MkV are not the same as those for the P14/17.  You may need a gunsmith to grind off the rear sight ears ans tap and drill the action for scope bases, unless you can find a no-gunsmithing mount for the P14.

On a personal note I would think the Unertl 12x would 'overscope' the rifle and caliber and I would go for a lower powered scope.  Just my 2 cents worth though.  HTH.  Mikey.

[Jack Crevalle]

http://www.scopemounts.com/1917enfield.html

[13 Bravo]

Oh yeah, I have the P17, not P14.......... DUh  :oops:

So you think an unertl would be a less desirable scope? What would be a better scope? (money is no object BTW)

Jack:

The mount you show here, does it require gunsmithing? I found one on http://www.gunaccessories.com/MilitaryScopeMounts/1917/index.asp

is that the same thing?

[Jack Crevalle]

Jack:

The mount you show here, does it require gunsmithing?

From their website:

"1. Insta-Mounts which attach to ex-military type rifles without drilling or tapping (hence "Insta-Mounts") "

I found one on http://www.gunaccessories.com/MilitaryScopeMounts/1917/index.asp

is that the same thing?

Let's do the taste test, first the S&K page:



now, the other brand:



Coffee drinkers can't tell the difference.

[13 Bravo]

haha!  :-D

So what scope would you put on it?

[Jack Crevalle]

There are probably a lot better people to ask than me. I try to keep my milsurp rifles with iron sights even though my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. I did break down and buy a scope for one of them since I thought that it's iron sights were why it wasn't shooting so great. That turned out to be the case.

First it depends on what you want to do with it and at what distances. Second, how much you want to spend.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that there are still American scope companies.

[13 Bravo]

Another question that I didn't want to open a new thread for:

Would it be possible to fit an M1 Garand Muzzle brake to the muzzle of my rifle with the proper amount of gunsmithing?

[Jack Crevalle]

It's possible but why permanently alter a collector's item? You can probably sell what you have, buy any number of already sporterized .30-06 milsurps or sporting rifles and have money left over to buy a scope and maybe even put a muzzle brake on.

[13 Bravo]

When I first got this rifle, it was in the most unusable condition imagineable! The barrel was crusty from carbon and no amount of patching could remove it. So we went to a gunsmith and got a new barrel that we werent able to install. So I endevoured to clean out the barrel and over the course of 2 years, I managed to clean it out to a fireable condition.

At a recent gun show I was able to replace the stock on the rifle to a sporterized stock because the old stock had splintered in a bunch of places and my grandfather had put electrical tape in different places to prevent it from cracking. Through a few hours of combing through this show I managed to replace the stock as well.

In all, this rifle is MY rifle and through the amount of effort I put into it, I doubt I will ever sell it. So why not try to improve the rifle? I just want to try some parts on it and if it doesn't work, then I can just take it off right?

Another thing is that I don't really use this rifle for much else than target shooting. I want to hunt someday but I may or may not hunt with this rifle.

[Dwarfmiester]

Bravo,

      I got a similar 1917 to yours several years ago, at first I was going to sporterize it.  The stock had already been cut and most of the metal pieces of the stock were missing.  While looking through a Gun Parts Catalog I saw a new walnut stock, upper handguard and all the metal that were missing.  $125.00 later,and I had to look at about 10 gunshows but I finally found a lower handguard.  I put it together and stained/finished all the wood so it almost matchs and I had a rifle I was offered $400.00 for.
Now it isn't realy a collector piece but it is good enough to have shot the Springfield and Grand Matchs in 2002 and 2003, Camp Perry is a ball and I will be there again this year.  A rifle must be as issued to shoot in these matches.  Good luck.