Biden leads in Pennsylvania but some point to ‘secret Trump’ voters: poll

[Graybeard]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-leads-in-pennsylvania-point-to-secret-trump-vote-poll

By Paul Steinhauser | Fox News

A new poll in the crucial general election battleground state of Pennsylvania shows Democratic challenger Joe Biden holding a double-digit lead over President Trump among registered voters.

But the survey, released Wednesday by Monmouth University, indicates that voters are evenly divided on which candidate they think will win the Keystone State – as a majority of those questioned believe that their communities hold a number of “secret Trump” voters.



The former vice president and presumptive Democratic nominee topped the GOP incumbent in the White House among registered voters 53-40 percent, according to the poll, which was conducted July 9-13.

Biden held a smaller lead over Trump among the smaller pool of likely voters. He topped the president 52-42 percent under a likely voter turnout model higher than turnout in the 2016 presidential election -- and held a 51-44 percent advantage under a lower likely turnout model.

But the poll shows that registered voters are divided on whether they expect the president or Biden will win Pennsylvania in the end. One reason may be that 57 percent of registered voters questioned said they believe there’s a sizeable amount of so-called secret voters in their communities who back Trump but won’t tell anyone about their support. Only 27 percent said they believe there are secret voters for the former vice president.

“The media consistently reports that Biden is in the lead, but voters remember what happened in 2016. The specter of a secret Trump vote looms large in 2020,” Monmouth University Polling Institute director Patrick Murray highlighted.

Pennsylvania – along with Michigan and Wisconsin – had been carried by Democrats in the presidential election for a quarter-century. But Trump narrowly edged out Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in all three states in 2016 – helping him win the White House.


The new poll indicates the former vice president topping Trump 93-1 percent among Democrats, with the president beating Biden 84-12 percent among Republicans. Biden has a 21-point lead among independent voters.

The survey also shows Biden with a large 31-point lead among voters under 50 – and a 10-point advantage among those 65 and older.

Murray noted that “even taking into account any polling error from four years ago, Biden is clearly doing well in swing areas. The Democrat has roots in this region which may be helping him, but there seems to be an overall erosion of support for Trump compared to 2016.”


Biden – who was born and spent his first 10 years in Scranton, Pa., before moving to Delaware – retains strong ties to the Keystone State. He’s held seven campaign events in Pennsylvania the past two months.

The poll's release comes with less than four months to go until November's general election, which is still a long time in campaign politics. And the president and the Trump campaign have repeatedly slammed public opinion polling as flawed and charge the surveys under-sample Republican voters.

The Monmouth University Poll was conducted using live telephone operators, with 409 registered voters in Pennsylvania questioned. The survey’s sampling error is plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

Paul Steinhauser is a politics reporter based in New Hampshire.

[The Old Man]

The Democrat Propaganda machine is already at it. I drove up into northern Pa over the weekend, and did not see even one Biden sign, but saw BIILBOARDS for Trump.

[JoeG52]

 The problem is the heavy population around Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.
 

[Argent 88]

The problem is the heavy population around Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

I wonder what the county map will look like. Whose red and whose blue.

[Sandhillbilly]

Well, whenever you read a poll you have to go to the bottom and see what the sampling percentage is

[ironglows]

The Democrat Propaganda machine is already at it. I drove up into northern Pa over the weekend, and did not see even one Biden sign, but saw BIILBOARDS for Trump.

  I see the same here in western NY. Sadly, we do not have electoral college at state level, so the many Trump voters here will be cancelled out by the big city lemmings.  ..But at least we get our choice of reps in the house !


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[The Old Man]

Well, Wolf seems to be trying to put bars which don't sell food out of bussiness, and also places which only sell food by limiting their capacity to 25%, which every one of the affected bussiness owners said would stop them from being able to make enough profit to even keep staff employed.


I believe unless the people in the cities are idiots, this will hurt the economy enough to cause either Democrats voted out of office, or socialism in.


Wolfs desired drop in numbers of C19 new cases have been met, his desire to rule with blind obedience has not.

[ironglows]

From The Old Man;
   Well, Wolf seems to be trying to put bars which don't sell food out of bussiness, and also places which only sell food by limiting their capacity to 25%, which every one of the affected bussiness owners said would stop them from being able to make enough profit to even keep staff employed.

  Of course the blue bubble heads obviously confer on how best to hurt the economy, so Comrade Cuomo is right in there with Wolfie !  ..But they are not opening bars  out of kindness.
  NY being a blue state, has a 'state sales tax', 8% where I live and generally more in counties which have cities.  Any retail establishment that are closed..the So if they keep the bars closed they lose tax money, so to make more tax money from each customer, he demands they also eat dinner.

  Tonight, at our usual 3rd Wednesday Legion meeting, we will discuss the situation.  I believe we are leaning toward giving each customer a cheese sandwich... or maybe peanut butter..  

  The leftists, like DibBasio, Cuomo and Newsome are trying to kill the economy, so as to make Pres Trump look bad..even though they lose tax money in doing so.
   Obviously, that is why Nancy is demanding that the federal government bail out the bankrupt democrat led states.