2 more last night. One spike at a 100 that dropped in its tracks with a golf ball sized exit and one big doe at 250 that I shot immediately after the spike and didn't take time to settle down and hit her in the guts. She made about 80 yards and her whole insides from the diaphragm back were liquid. Ive been use 30 grains of 2230 and a 100 grain ballistic tip and a fed small rifle match primer. Shoots 3/4 in 5 shot groups in my ar.