Author Topic: CCW carrier kills wannabe robber inside chicago store. Cops take both guns. (Read 932 times)

powderman · « **on:** December 27, 2020, 09:06:07 AM »

CCW carrier kills wannabe robber inside chicago store. Cops take both guns.
« on: Today at 03:03:08 PM »

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chicago-armed-robbery-thwarted-as-gun-owner-with-concealed-carry-permit-kills-suspect-report

Chicago armed robbery thwarted as gun owner with concealed-carry permit kills suspect: report
Police confiscated weapons from both the suspect and the gun owner as part of their investigation, a report said
By Dom Calicchio | Fox News

Fox News Flash top headlines for December 24
A gun owner with a concealed-carry permit shot and killed an armed robbery suspect at a Chicago cell phone store on Saturday night, according to police.

It was not immediately clear whether the 29-year-old gun owner was the business owner, an employee or a customer, FOX 32 of Chicago reported.

The gun owner shot the armed suspect at least two times in the 7 p.m. incident, police told the station. The suspect was transported to a local hospital in critical condition and was later pronounced dead, FOX 32 reported.

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Police confiscated weapons from both the suspect and the gun owner as part of their investigation, the news outlet reported.

The incident happened in the city’s Humboldt Park neighborhood, the report said. It was unclear how many people were inside the store at the time.

Dom Calicchio is a Senior Editor at FoxNews.com. Reach him at dom.calicchio@foxnews.com.

BUGEYE · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2020, 09:08:37 AM »

He can kiss that gun goodbye.

Dee · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2020, 09:41:23 AM »

Of course they took both guns. They're both evidence concerning the event. When a police officer is involved in a shooting, they take his gun.
If cleared, the defender of the store gets his gun back.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2020, 10:59:10 AM »

Never carry a keepsake gun for self defense. If you get the gun back at all, it will be a long time.

Graybeard · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2020, 11:01:35 AM »

In Chicago, I'd not bet on the guy ever seeing his gun again and I highly doubt he'll keep his CCW permit. That's a very gun unfriendly town.

powderman · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2020, 09:09:14 PM »

If the shooter is white I expect the black pervert mayor to have him charged with a crime. And NO, he will never see his gun again. CHARLIE.

ironglows · « **Reply #6 on:** December 27, 2020, 11:52:07 PM »

Bill may be much closer to the truth than many think. It seems that everything in Chicago these days, revolves around "race".
I hope the CCW holder was a store employee. Otherwise, who knows? The DA could charge him/her, by claiming they could have walked off, rather than shoot the perp!
One sticky part seems to be the term "self defense", and I have heard of CCW holder being charged, because they shot in defense of a stranger.
If that seems outrageous, consider the couple from the St Louis area, who were defending themselves and their property from a rampaging mob! They have been dragged through misery, and no shots were even fired !
So often, "justice" embodies feelings which run far beyond common sense.

Dee · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2020, 02:00:18 AM »

Well, everything other than the two guns being taken as evidence so far is speculation, as the "final results" of the investigation, isn't "final".
Doubt we'll ever know.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2020, 03:52:00 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on December 27, 2020, 10:59:10 AM

Never carry a keepsake gun for self defense. If you get the gun back at all, it will be a long time.

Exactly, my carry guns are always ugly but functional weapons that I won't cry over if I lose them.

Dee · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2020, 04:23:52 AM »

I gave ALL of my "keepsake guns" to my sons. Two were "business guns" from my law enforcement days.
My self protection guns are all quality guns that I'll bet my life on. Im not concerned about losing a gun to the police over a justified shooting. I'm concerned about losing the fight.

ironglows · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2020, 04:27:13 AM »

Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2020, 04:23:52 AM

I gave ALL of my "keepsake guns" to my sons. Two were "business guns" from my law enforcement days.
My self protection guns are all quality guns that I'll bet my life on. Im not concerned about losing a gun to the police over a justified shooting. I'm concerned about losing the fight.

'Bout where I'm at! ...Also glad I live in a no-nonsense, rural county..just in case I ever have to defend life or limb.

Dee · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2020, 04:32:54 AM »

I've had MY GUN taken twice pending shooting investigations. Both were returned.
I have seized SEVERAL guns involved in shootings by folks defending themselves, AND accidental shootings.
ALL GUNS were returned to the owners after the investigation was completed.

Graybeard · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2020, 04:54:38 AM »

But Dan, dat's Texas not Chicago, whole different world.

Dee · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2020, 06:15:20 AM »

I realize that Bill, but shouldn't the investigators be given the benefit of the doubt, until the investigation is over? Are ALL POLICE OFFICERS in Chicago crooks?

BUGEYE · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2020, 09:08:48 AM »

Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2020, 06:15:20 AM

I realize that Bill, but shouldn't the investigators be given the benefit of the doubt, until the investigation is over? Are ALL POLICE OFFICERS in Chicago crooks?

Yes.
Not really but they work for a mayor that ties their hands so they can’t do the job of good cops.

Graybeard · « **Reply #15 on:** December 28, 2020, 10:31:01 AM »

Quote from: Dee on December 28, 2020, 06:15:20 AM

I realize that Bill, but shouldn't the investigators be given the benefit of the doubt, until the investigation is over? Are ALL POLICE OFFICERS in Chicago crooks?

Oh sure they should. But in the end it isn't really their decision in Chicago. He was in violation of city ordinances just bringing it in. That in the end will likely decide his fate as well as that of his gun.

Dee · « **Reply #16 on:** December 28, 2020, 11:17:11 AM »

If he had a concealed carry permit, how was he in violation.

Graybeard · « **Reply #17 on:** December 28, 2020, 12:23:44 PM »

Permits are state not city permits. IL has something called a FOID you must get to own any gun or to buy ammo. It is state issued. They don't have preemption so cities can make laws much different than state law, Chicago has.

There are no gun shops and no gun sales there. Handguns are pretty much banned in city limits.

I've never lived there so maybe someone at least from the state can expand on this or correct any errors I've made.

Dee · « **Reply #18 on:** December 28, 2020, 12:26:59 PM »

Didn't know that.

Graybeard · « **Reply #19 on:** December 28, 2020, 12:32:25 PM »

Lotsa folks not from up there don't. I've read extensively of their problems, someone from IL would likely be able to better explain all the details.

I tend to think of Chicago as more like a foreign country than America.

Dee · « **Reply #20 on:** December 28, 2020, 12:44:04 PM »

Chicago is starting to compare well to Mogadishu.

Graybeard · « **Reply #21 on:** December 28, 2020, 06:14:52 PM »

powderman · « **Reply #22 on:** December 28, 2020, 08:03:32 PM »

The FOID card is even needed to buy a pk of bbs, it's a photo ID. CHARLIE.

ironglows · « **Reply #23 on:** December 30, 2020, 04:10:28 AM »

Quote from: powderman on December 28, 2020, 08:03:32 PM

The FOID card is even needed to buy a pk of bbs, it's a photo ID. CHARLIE.

Hmmmm... seems like if they need that FOID card to buy BBs, getting an ID to vote, would be no problem..

Just more leftist hypocrisy..

ironglows · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2020, 04:11:47 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on December 28, 2020, 12:23:44 PM

Permits are state not city permits. IL has something called a FOID you must get to own any gun or to buy ammo. It is state issued. They don't have preemption so cities can make laws much different than state law, Chicago has.

There are no gun shops and no gun sales there. Handguns are pretty much banned in city limits.

I've never lived there so maybe someone at least from the state can expand on this or correct any errors I've made.

Yes! Those big cities can be nutsy.. I have a NY State CCW permit, but I cannot carry in NY City.. I really don't care about that though, because I don't plan on vacationing in Mogadishu west, anytime soon!
In fact, as I understand it, some are really off the wall. I am told that people who get a permit in Buffalo, cannot regularly carry, since restrictions are placed upon them, to confine their carry to shooting ranges, and possibly hunting only. However, we who live in another county..can legally carry in Buffalo.

If I am wrong in any way, perhaps some CCW holder from Buffalo will correct, or at least explain their situation.