Keeping the Sabbath Holy.

[powderman]

The Sabbath as we know it is observed on Sunday, not Saturday even though it was changed hundreds of years ago. My purpose of this post is Sunday work. Even Jesus said to keep the Sabbath Holy. I refused to work at WM Sundays, I'm told that Fed law says we have that right. If we go out to eat, or go shopping on Sunday are we causing our brothers and Sisters to sin because they have to work?? This has bothered me for many years. I thought we might kick this around a bit. I really like companies like Aldis and Chic fil a that are closed Sundays. Company's are greedy, gotta have that Sunday money because other stores will get it. Well?? CHARLIE. 

[Lloyd Smale]

guess im kind of a failure in that respect. I give you credit for sticking to your guns and not working on the sabbath. I had no choice. 8 years in the military didnt give me that option and then the rest of my life as a lineman. We worked monday through friday but had to work on weekends if there were power outages. For many the option just isnt there in this modern world. I do today though. I go to church and will not cast, load or shoot on sundays. Do i dedicate the whole day to God? probably not. At least not to the degree that God says i should.

[pastorp]

The Jewish sabbath was from sundown Friday until sundown Saturday.

Christ arose from the grave on Sunday, first day of the week, so the Christians began to worship on Sunday. I remember as a child we were allowed out of the house Sunday afternoon but attended church morning and evening for those services. No TV back in those days so the family played board games in the afternoon, like checkers. Mother would fix a fine meal for Sunday lunch and often the pastor or a visiting missionary would be invited to eat with us.

Point is Sunday was devoted to our lord and church.

Their was 2 gas stations open on Sunday 1 on each side of town. And 2 pharmacies for emergencies. The hospital was open too and the police station. Those were considered essential jobs.

Such was life back in the 40s and 50s in the south.

[Dee]

Texas had a "blue law". Nothing was open on Sunday back in the 50s and before. Times were slower, and "seemed" less complicated, but "complicated" is only in the eyes of the beholder.

We still had farmers working, cattlemen feeding cattle, and Sunday bootleggers sellin booze.

The world moved at a slower pace, but in the same direction.

Television, and now the internet, have damaged our societys' morality beyond repair.

[Lloyd Smale]

cant argue that. Used to think the internet and tv were tools that made it harder for politicians to be corrupt but weve been schooled. I can be just as much of a tool to twist the beliefs of uniformed and the left to push there agenda. Just like in georgia. We all know the reason that we lost there was biden coming on tv and promising everyone 2000 dollars if they voted for the democrats. If that isnt corrupt i dont know what is. The liberals have made an art form out of using the media to push there agenda. News companies bought and paid for. Now even outright bribing voters. He bride 100s of thousands of people without even cracking open his wallet. If that isnt election fraud what is???

Texas had a "blue law". Nothing was open on Sunday back in the 50s and before. Times were slower, and "seemed" less complicated, but "complicated" is only in the eyes of the beholder.

We still had farmers working, cattlemen feeding cattle, and Sunday bootleggers sellin booze.

The world moved at a slower pace, but in the same direction.

Television, and now the internet, have damaged our societys' morality beyond repair.

[Graybeard]

GOD created the earth in 6 days and on the 7th rested and called it the sabbath.

Sunday isn't the first day of the week it's the 7th. Man can try to change things as they wish at their own peril, GOD made the rule about which day is the sabbath, not man.

Admittedly man gave the days names and since there were no men when GOD did HIS work I guess we could argue till hell freezes over regarding which of the man named day is in fact first and which the last.

Some fortunate few will one day get to hear the correct answer directly from the SOURCE.

[BUGEYE]

Well, I think the first century Christians worshipped on Sunday.
Not sure if that’s the first or last day of the week.
Anyhow, I think everyone should be off work that day except those with an ox in the ditch.
Those would be first responders, their services are needed and I think GOD understands.

[Bob Riebe]

Not until a few year back were liquor stores allowed to be open on Sunday in Minn.
Through part of the seventies, most stores were closed on Sunday, with telephone numbers available for an emergency. Later when ONE drug store in my home town, on a rotating basis was open on Sunday, it was only open from eight till two PM, farmers hours.
Then first a Plaza and then  Mall moved in, they caused the town to change with long hours on Sunday.

[Bob Riebe]

Why was the Sabbath changed to Sunday?
So what made the mainstream Christian church change the day of rest and worship from Saturday to Sunday so long ago?

The major causes seem to be a combination of church authority overriding scriptural principles and the influences of sun worship and anti-Semitism.

The Catholic Church claimed authority to change scriptural principles
Around A.D. 400, Augustine, a respected Catholic theologian, proclaimed that “the holy doctors of the Church have decreed, that all glory of the Jewish Sabbath is transferred to it [Sunday]. Let us therefore keep the Lord’s Day as the ancients were commanded to do the Sabbath” (quoted by Robert Cox in Sabbath Laws and Sabbath Duties, 1853, p. 284).

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The Catholic Encyclopedia section on “Sunday” mentions St. Caesarius of Arles reinforcing this teaching in the sixth century as well. These men put the changing of the Sabbath in the hands of the doctors of the church (post-apostolic church officials).

In its section on the “Ten Commandments,” the Catholic Encyclopedia says: “The Church, on the other hand, after changing the day of rest from the Jewish Sabbath, or seventh day of the week, to the first, made the Third Commandment [we count it as the Fourth] refer to Sunday as the day to be kept holy as the Lord’s Day.”
Here is another instance in which Sunday worship was put into practice based on the Catholic Church’s claim of authority to change a scriptural principle. Again, mainstream church authorities will assume it is what the apostles wanted.

Other Catholic writers made it clear that Sunday services and worship are not endorsed by biblical teachings, but only by their church’s authority:

The Catholic Universe Bulletin said in 1942: “The Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her Founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant, claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.”

The Catholic Virginian said in 1947: “All of us believe many things in regard to religion that we do not find in the Bible. For example, nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the
 Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the Church outside the Bible.”

Constantine made Sunday a day of rest , in his empire, over a decade before he converted.

[powderman]

BOB. Good post Sir, true.
When I was a pup Sunday was a day of worship. Stores were all closed, if you needed something on Sunday, you better buy it on Saturday.
Farmers have no choice, they are responsible for their livestock and must care for them, essential.
DRS, nurses, hospitols, physical rehabs, nursing homes, etc. Essential.
Police, first responders, firefighters, our military. ALL essential.

I can still remember what killed it all. MONEY, the interstate came through our community. That of course brought trucks and cars in needing gas, etc. A 76 truckstop opened up.  Then the owner of midstate decided he didn't want to miss out on all the Sunday money. It was a lumber, variety, food store. Then other greedy business owners got the MONEY bug. CRAP, look at ol Bill raking in the dough on Sunday, I want my share. I could even understand a pharmacy being open.

Walmart, target, foodstores, Dollar stores, restaurants, etc. ESSENTIAL?? Nope, gotta have that money. FIRE AWAY. CHARLIE. 

[ironglows]

The Jews, orthodox or reformed, are fastidious about years, dates, & etc.  That habit was formed in ancient times, even before the scripture were written.  They were exacting enough to keep track of genealogies over many centuries, until today.
  They say the sabbath is on Saturday..
 
     Christians don't celebrate the sabbath so to speak, but the Lord's day.  Itb is especially  important to Christians, since that is resurrection day..  Mission accomplished..and mankind has a "finished" brand new covenant.

 
   "In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. (Matt 1:28)

[powderman]

A lot of good posts but still no answer to my question. Are we causing our brothers and Sisters to sin by going shopping or going out to eat on Sunday?? This has bothered me for many years. YES, sometimes we do this too. Don't know where but somewhere in the Bible it is written, woe to the man that causes his brother to sin, and woe to the king that causes his nation to sin. CHARLIE. 

[Dee]

A lot of good posts but still no answer to my question. Are we causing our brothers and Sisters to sin by going shopping or going out to eat on Sunday?? This has bothered me for many years. YES, sometimes we do this too. Don't know where but somewhere in the Bible it is written, woe to the man that causes his brother to sin, and woe to the king that causes his nation to sin. CHARLIE. 

Romans Chapter 23  verses 14 thru 23

God is a God of choice. If a store clerk  cook, dishwasher, waiter,  waitress chooses to work on any given day, it is by their own choice.
They may consider some other day their day of worship, or may choose not to worship on any given day.
I don't follow my faith based on the lifestyle of others.

[BUGEYE]

A lot of good posts but still no answer to my question. Are we causing our brothers and Sisters to sin by going shopping or going out to eat on Sunday?? This has bothered me for many years. YES, sometimes we do this too. Don't know where but somewhere in the Bible it is written, woe to the man that causes his brother to sin, and woe to the king that causes his nation to sin. CHARLIE. 

If everyone that could, would stay home on Sunday or go to Church and then straight home, it would all change.
But I believe it was you that said it’s all about greed, and that explains it all.

[ironglows]

We each have choices to make...and it maybe difficult for others to understand  many of the reasons, personal and otherwise.
  As a youth, my parents were not avid, every Sunday church goers.  ...But we lived on a farm, plus Dad worked a 5 day a week job...so weekends were the days for making hay, chopping corn and many other jobs.. 
  You cut hay on Saturday, and the weather is good..if the hay is ready..you better "make hay while the sun shines"!
  “And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?”  (Luke 14:5)

   When it is a nice day, spring through fall, one may see me doing some blacksmithing, either in my shop, or demonstrating for others.
   Why would I do that?  Well I consider smithing to be "recreation", and I enjoy doing it, just as some consider playing baseball, working around a mini golf course, or bowling on a Sunday afternoon..to be recreation.
   How can a stranger competently decide between your need or recreation?  Thank God, He gave us "free will" and allows each of us to decide.
  ...And if a fellow Christian needs correction, I'll allow the Holy Spirit to convict, because He knows better than I do, if correction is needed.