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Offline Argent 88

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Make a simple mistake on your taxes?
« on: March 07, 2021, 08:02:54 AM »
You could be severely punished, for life.

 That the punishment should fit the crime is a widely held axiom. If you lie on a tax return, you might expect to face certain consequences, such as fines and the repayment of back taxes, probably with interest, and perhaps even home confinement, or (in the extreme case) prison time. But you would not expect a lifetime restriction on your fundamental rights — such as the freedom to speak, to own property, or to enjoy your privacy. These punishments would be arbitrary and unjust given the nature of the crime.

Nor would you expect to permanently lose your right to own a firearm as punishment for a false statement to the IRS. But that is exactly what could happen, and what has happened, because of an unforgiving and unconstitutional federal law — passed as part of the Gun Control Act of 1968 — that automatically bans nearly all felons, even those convicted only of non-violent crimes, from ever possessing firearms for self-defense.

Losing the natural, constitutionally protected right to own a firearm is an unjust and arbitrary consequence for a non-violent crime of this nature. It is akin to losing one’s right to speak or the right against unreasonable search and seizure. And yet, unlike those other — hypothetical — unjust punishments, this lifetime ban on the possession of firearms is actually imposed by the federal government on tens of thousands — if not hundreds of thousands — of non-violent offenders.

Non-violent felons are not the only people subject to this “life sentence.” Conviction of any crime punishable by more than one year’s imprisonment automatically triggers the ban. And this lifetime ban applies regardless of whether any prison time was actually served. Under this sweeping standard, even some misdemeanors result in a lifetime loss of gun rights.

Worse, all of this depends — arbitrarily — on where an offense was committed. There are eight states in which a single DUI conviction triggers this permanent ban on gun ownership. In Oklahoma, adultery (which isn’t even a crime in some jurisdictions and is only a misdemeanor in others) will trigger this lifetime ban.

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Re: Make a simple mistake on your taxes?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2021, 09:14:51 AM »
I've had minor troubles with them
a couple of times. One was a mistake
that was their fault and was easily
cleared up. The other was about a
fake check that somebody had written
against my account and the bank
fixed it, but the tax people thought it
should be income even though I
did nothing wrong. Their position is
that somebody owes us and we
choose you. You have to prove your
innocence instead of innocent until
proven guilty. Hopefully, I'll never
have to do any of that again
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Re: Make a simple mistake on your taxes?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2021, 02:32:11 AM »
I've had minor troubles with them
a couple of times. One was a mistake
that was their fault and was easily
cleared up. The other was about a
fake check that somebody had written
against my account and the bank
fixed it, but the tax people thought it
should be income even though I
did nothing wrong. Their position is
that somebody owes us and we
choose you. You have to prove your
innocence instead of innocent until
proven guilty. Hopefully, I'll never
have to do any of that again

Same happened to me. I entered my daughter's SS# in one digit off one year. They immediately removed her as a deduction and mailed me a bill for over $2000. Tens of thousands of IRS employees and not one of them could have done a quick review with the previous years taxes and saw that it was a typo on my part. Instead I was guilty until proven innocent like you said. It took sitting on hold for 2 1/2 hours and getting transferred to different IRS employees about 5 times before I finally talked to the person who could correct it. After all that she said it would take about 30 days for it to get corrected in their system. When they make a mistake it takes 30 days to fix but if you make a mistake they find it immediately and send you a bill immediately.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

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Re: Make a simple mistake on your taxes?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2021, 02:47:35 PM »
They didn't send me a bill.
They emptied my checking account
and some checks for bills bounced.
Bank fees plus fees from people the
checks were written to. Needless to
say, IRS didn't offer to reimburse the
hot check fees, or fix my formerly
flawless credit rating. I probably could
have hired a tax attorney and got it all
fixed for a small fortune in fees, but. . .

What can you do? . . .
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Re: Make a simple mistake on your taxes?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2021, 09:42:33 AM »