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Posted by David Maccar

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These niche .410 wheelguns have been popular for a decade, but they have plenty of haters.
A little more than 10 years ago, two gun companies made a lot of noise with a new kind of revolver. The Taurus Judge and the Smith & Wesson Governor debuted around the same time, creating waves across the self-defense market. Both guns are double-action revolvers that can fire both .45 Long Colt centerfire ammunition, as well as 2.5-inch .410 shotshells.

The Governor can also fire .45 ACP rounds with the use of a moon clip and has a six-round cylinder, whereas the Judge revolver cannot and originally came with a five-round cylinder.

Why would anyone want a gun like this? In theory, this handheld, six-shot, revolving shotgun makes sense. While the .410 has long been thought of as a small game and pest gun, self-defense .410 shells are quite formidable at in-the-room ranges for personal defense. Most would consider either gun, even their short-barreled versions, too bulky for concealed carry, so these would be mostly home-defense guns.

In a more rural setting, an easy-to-carry .410 is a good sidearm to have when traveling on foot or on horse through snake country. They also make decent pest guns, although their range is limited.

Disadvantages
The ATF and the National Firearms Act (NFA) have specific rules about how big a shotgun has to be, and neither Judge nor the Governor meets those specifications. Yet, they do not require a tax stamp to own.

That's because of the barrels on both guns, specifically the bores. They are partially rifled, which means, by law, the guns are primarily .45 Long Colt revolvers that also happen to be able to fire .410 shotgun shells. So, while they can be purchased like a normal handgun, there is a trade-off.

When shot of any size, from the smallest birdshot to the largest buckshot, is fired down a rifled barrel, it will be swirling when it comes out of the muzzle. That means the pattern will become strung out quickly.

If your target is 5 or 6 feet away, it won't make too much of a difference, but any farther and you're really just hoping.

On the other hand, because the barrel is only partially rifled, it's not so great at being a .45 Long Colt gun either, especially the 3-inch barrel and 2.5-inch barrel versions.

Plus, recoil is a concern. Both the .410 and the .45 Long Colt are considerable cartridges in a handgun, and the shorter-barrel Judges are not very heavy. It takes some getting used to before you can fire these guns comfortably and accurately, even at effective ranges.

None of that has made the Taurus Judge any less popular. There are more than a dozen models in the Judge line currently with a variety of finishes (including stainless steel) and barrel lengths.

The Taurus Public Defender is sized more for concealed carry, while the Taurus Raging Judge is an even bigger, beefier version of the revolver with a six-round cylinder that can run the formidable .454 Casull round in addition to the ammo combo of .45 Colt and .410 shotshell.

The four Taurus Judge Magnum revolvers have 3-inch chambers to handle the larger, more popular .410 hunting and defensive loads.

For something in an even more compact package, Bond Arms makes several models of its double-barrel derringers chambered for .410 shotshells and .45 Colt ammo. However, make sure you shoot one of these small guns in large calibers. You might never want to relive the experience.

Over at Smith & Wesson, the Governor is still in the catalog, but the line was never expanded beyond the original handgun and pricing has remained pretty much the same.


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Re: .410 HANDGUN: THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE HEAVY-DUTY REVOLVERS
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 02:49:18 PM »
My adult son bought one of the judges when they first came out we took it out back of the shop to test fire I was standing to the right of him and about 20 feet away and when he touched that thing off I thought my ear drum had burse I could not hear anything out of my left ear for a couple hours. He did not keep it very long and it was gone to someone who wanted it more than he did. Now the 45/410 contenders are not that bad but they have a sealed chamber.

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Re: .410 HANDGUN: THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE HEAVY-DUTY REVOLVERS
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 10:14:31 PM »
buddy bought a tarus. THe short barreled one. We put a standard size peice of paper at 25 yards and shot at it with 3 inch #6 shot and 6 bbs hit the target. He traded it a week later. Probably ok for protection or snakes up close but they sure arent small game guns like a 410 tc contender
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Re: .410 HANDGUN: THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE HEAVY-DUTY REVOLVERS
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 06:46:18 PM »
Bought a Leinad 45/410 "derringer" with the 11" barrel. What a brute. I got the 11" barrel so I could put my left hand on the barrel to hold it down. After the first 410 went off, it was pointing at the sky. I didn't keep it long. Still trying, just bought a Super Comanche 45/410. Haven't picked it up yet. Was told today to expect release to take 3 weeks.

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Re: .410 HANDGUN: THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE HEAVY-DUTY REVOLVERS
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2021, 02:33:22 AM »
Never really sounded like a good idea to me. I've been shown several, and was never tempted.
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Re: .410 HANDGUN: THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE HEAVY-DUTY REVOLVERS
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2021, 04:20:43 AM »
I figuratively shook my head when I saw it's announcement. When my LGS got one in I asked to see it just to see if my expectation of it being a very front heavy revolver proved to be true and it did. My opinion is it's big, heavy, clumsy, pretty much useless revolver.