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[savageT]

Question:  How much more would a Remington Wingmaster cost?  It sure would be a much better gun than the Express.  Check them out!


SavageT

[Graybeard]

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If you think you might become serious about the clay target games do yourself a favor and save the money you will waste on the cheap guns. The Rem. 11-87 is a good choice and many use semiautos. BUT most serious shooters use O/Us. Do not get the pump or the cheap semiauto for clay target shooting.

GB

[Holdengr]

I have also been hunting and shooting for a long time and I have also decided to take up clay shooting. I think one of the reasons I hunt is to shoot so why not shoot at the range.

I'm in the same position as you are- new clay shooter. I have been collectiong info and opinions from many places for a couple of months and will continue to do so until the snow and cold goes so I can get cracking at some clays. I also have yet to pick a gun to buy, but i'm way closer now.

The main things I have learned is: I f you dont want to spend as much and dont want as much recoil buy a semi-used is O.K. but stick to a reputable brand, most people have told me that berettas 391 and the Rem 11-87 are good buys. Interchangable chokes are a must(to go from skeet to sporting clays).

If you dont mind a little more recoil the over/under is another  good choice(more money but I like the look better). Same rule applies-used quality brand guns are better than new rubbish. I'm leaning towards a used citori- 1000-1200 $cdn. There are a lot of guns out there that will beat you up simply because their dimensions are for field shooting.

Keep in mind this is only what "I" have found from talking to a lot of people on the phone, in the shop and on groups likew this?

It really does look like a lot of fun, I cant wait until spring.

[.45 Kimber]

Hello

I shoot a rem 11-87 premier  (but it has factory syn stocks on it ) Long story short it was caught in a fire before sold so the ins. company pd to have it fixed and it was the cheapest option for them.  Bought over 10 years ago

Anyways  I beat the hell out of this gun.
It is a tool for me,  I deer hunt with slugs out of a scoped cantilever barrel and it shoots damn good  (see earlier posts )
and I shoot birds, to bunnies to clays.  I use the gun for what is is ment for to shoot a lot of shells and normally at a rapid pace.

this poor gun has been in snow, dirt and ever at the bottom of a pond (always tie a cord to the sling when duck hunting in a boat)

and I have never had a shell jam, when firing
I shoot everything from light target loads to heavy 3" mags and slugs
I even shoot reloads.

We did a game farm tower bird hunt this year and I not joking, shot at least 8 boxes of steel shot through the gun and no problems.

When I got home and cleaned it the power residue was so horrible i had to soak the gas ports in solution and clean them with picks to break all the crud free, andn not 1 mis ejection and I shot light steel target loads at clays at the end of the day just to use up shells

My only drawback to my gun is that when unloading its tough to get the shells out of the magazine,  it acted ( i fixed the problem) as if the plate had a bur from stamping and it would not always go far enough up to allow the shells to slide out.

I like the gun so well I bought the same gun in a special purpose with wood stocks for my father as a gift a few years back,  and his operated perfect

Jamie
Loyal Remington shot gun fan


PS one of my other shotguns is an old Rem 11-48 recoil operated
flawless execpt when real cold if is is dirty

[stv]

If you go to a club and watch what people using - Remington.  If you talk about durability aginst thousands of rounds Remington.   Availability of parts when they get worn, Remington.  Accessories availablility - Barrels, chokes, stocks - Remington.   For use during learning - getting started and ability to use as a hunting piece as well.  A good shooter at our club has many good ( make that expensive) O/U's and high end guns that go for big bucks but come september he picks out his beat up, hand painted camo 11-87 and goes right on smashing them.   Good luck and you will get hooked really fast on the shotgun games.  Look out for a good reloading set up you will need it.

[Bullseye]

I am a Remington fan so enough said about brand.  If you want a pump, get a 870 Wingmaster.  If the 11-87 is in your price range, so is the Wingmaster, it is about $460.  The Wingmaster looks better, cycles smoother, top of the rib looks ten times better and will increase in value much more than a Express.  And yes I have had both but now only have Wingmasters.

As far as pump or auto, it is a personal choice in my opinion.  The Semi will kick a little less.  I shoot my auto for skeet for this reason but still dearly love those pumps more than the autos if I could only have one.  The pumps are quite a bit lighter in weight which is good for hunting.

[Bob_K]

I have both Remington 1100 and 11-87's, and Browning Citori's.  For just Trap and Skeet, I go with the Citori.  (I like not having to look all over for my hulls.)  For the best all purpose gun, I'd opt for the 11-87.  With all the different barrels and chokes, it can be used most anywhere.  Remember that a quality. name brand gun will retain its value better.