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CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« on: December 25, 2021, 02:06:57 AM »
Yesterday afternoon I went out and done some shooting. I took only one gun with me, the S&W Shield Plus which I am planning on it becoming my primary carry gun.

The plan was to shoot all 4 magazines ( 3-13 round and 1 10 round) and shoot each twice. I did that more or less but wasn't able to do it quite as planned. Loading the full complement into them was not an easy task and I will have to find a loading tool to help get those last one or two in. I was able to get 13 rounds in one mag and the full 10 in that mag. But the other two I just couldn't jam the full 13 in using my thumb. One I could only get 11 rounds in and the other 12 rounds. I have a bruised area on the thumb where one slipped and that kinda hurt.

Shooting went OK. I went thru one full box of 50 CCI aluminum case ammo and about 40 rounds of a reload using some brand of JHP, I think they are Nosler but am not really sure. I have a HUGE pile of them loaded whatever they are. So I shot around 90 rounds which is certainly the most I've shot this year at one session.

My hits were spotty, I'm just a lousy shot these days and that's the way life is. My hands shake like I had a vibrator attached and I just don't see those sights like I once did. Still at times I hit what I was aiming at even when what I was aiming at was way too tiny for me to expect to hit it. I also missed regularly at targets that should have been easy. Such is life when you are old and shaky.

The gun functioned and fired 100% with no issues. I am gonna hafta modify it a bit though. The aggressive texture on the grip is just too much. It was OK except at the front of the grip and front of the magazine extension on those 13 round mags. I gotta smooth that up some as it was eating up my little finger by the last couple of mags of ammo. I'll prolly smooth it up on the back of grip a bit also. By the end I was feeling the pain there also but not nearly as much as the low front. None of it was bad enough to worry about for the normal use you'd expect the gun to be put to but for a long range session like today it is just too darn aggressive and was like coarse sandpaper. I've read in some reviews the writer was of same opinion and some said they like it.

I think how much a person uses their hands daily might play into it. I have soft hands from lack of use of them and it hurt. A person who uses their hands daily would have tougher hands and likely it wouldn't be an issue for them. Recoil was very manageable, it stayed in my hand and other than the coarse sandpaper like finish was not a problem at all.

I do need to put it on paper, likely though at no more than 10 yards to see where it is hitting. I never did quite get that figured out at 25 yards, likely cuz my groups were too large and I'm sure that is my fault not the gun's.

The single biggest issue though is it just plain doesn't fit the holster so I can't carry it until I get that issue fixed. The holster that is supposed to work fits it just too tightly and won't release it on the draw. It's a paddle holster and it pulls the paddle and holster almost out of my pants when drawing, that won't work. The original Shield fits the holster and comes out smoothly, this one is supposed to use same holster but this one ain't gonna cut it. I might be able to fix that, I'll call Fobus after the holidays. I e-mailed them and they said they think they can help and to call then.

I tried to use the holster for the Shield EZ and I think it fit and came back out OK. But closer checking showed the trigger guard wasn't locking in with the EZ holster so the gun would fall out too easily, that's not an option.

I did more searching last night and found a DeSantis Gun Hide leather holster that seems to fit it like a glove. It could maybe stand to be just a wee bit tighter fit but it will stay in holster for any moves I'm likely to make. I don't stand on my head or do cartwheels these days.

Only thing I don't like about this holster is, it is an IWB holster for concealed carry and I do not as a rule carry concealed. I prefer open carry with an OWB holster. I'll wait and see what accommodation Fobus can make for me but I have found a Safariland holster with level 2 retention I think I can live with and it is an OWB  holster and uses a paddle to attach which is what I prefer.




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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2021, 02:21:16 AM »
Ain't old age fun.
When I make a fist, they feel stiff, and not as much grip.
Several years ago I went back to where I started in my old profession.
A good ole 357 magnum.
I don't worry about double taps, I just need a hit.
I'm getting like you described, thos magazines get harder, and harder to load.
On holsters, I hate kydex and love leather.
Hogue bantum rubber grips on the 686, stuck in an OWB Tucker Gun Leather custom holster. Had to play extra for my initial.
I like concealed carry so I'm all set. I guess when, or if I live long enough to become too decrepit to walk I'll stick that Smith Airweight in my pocket and call it a day.
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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2022, 04:15:12 PM »
Yesterday afternoon I went out and done some shooting. I took only one gun with me, the S&W Shield Plus which I am planning on it becoming my primary carry gun.

The plan was to shoot all 4 magazines ( 3-13 round and 1 10 round) and shoot each twice. I did that more or less but wasn't able to do it quite as planned. Loading the full complement into them was not an easy task and I will have to find a loading tool to help get those last one or two in. I was able to get 13 rounds in one mag and the full 10 in that mag. But the other two I just couldn't jam the full 13 in using my thumb. One I could only get 11 rounds in and the other 12 rounds. I have a bruised area on the thumb where one slipped and that kinda hurt.

Shooting went OK. I went thru one full box of 50 CCI aluminum case ammo and about 40 rounds of a reload using some brand of JHP, I think they are Nosler but am not really sure. I have a HUGE pile of them loaded whatever they are. So I shot around 90 rounds which is certainly the most I've shot this year at one session.

My hits were spotty, I'm just a lousy shot these days and that's the way life is. My hands shake like I had a vibrator attached and I just don't see those sights like I once did. Still at times I hit what I was aiming at even when what I was aiming at was way too tiny for me to expect to hit it. I also missed regularly at targets that should have been easy. Such is life when you are old and shaky.

The gun functioned and fired 100% with no issues. I am gonna hafta modify it a bit though. The aggressive texture on the grip is just too much. It was OK except at the front of the grip and front of the magazine extension on those 13 round mags. I gotta smooth that up some as it was eating up my little finger by the last couple of mags of ammo. I'll prolly smooth it up on the back of grip a bit also. By the end I was feeling the pain there also but not nearly as much as the low front. None of it was bad enough to worry about for the normal use you'd expect the gun to be put to but for a long range session like today it is just too darn aggressive and was like coarse sandpaper. I've read in some reviews the writer was of same opinion and some said they like it.

I think how much a person uses their hands daily might play into it. I have soft hands from lack of use of them and it hurt. A person who uses their hands daily would have tougher hands and likely it wouldn't be an issue for them. Recoil was very manageable, it stayed in my hand and other than the coarse sandpaper like finish was not a problem at all.

I do need to put it on paper, likely though at no more than 10 yards to see where it is hitting. I never did quite get that figured out at 25 yards, likely cuz my groups were too large and I'm sure that is my fault not the gun's.

The single biggest issue though is it just plain doesn't fit the holster so I can't carry it until I get that issue fixed. The holster that is supposed to work fits it just too tightly and won't release it on the draw. It's a paddle holster and it pulls the paddle and holster almost out of my pants when drawing, that won't work. The original Shield fits the holster and comes out smoothly, this one is supposed to use same holster but this one ain't gonna cut it. I might be able to fix that, I'll call Fobus after the holidays. I e-mailed them and they said they think they can help and to call then.

I tried to use the holster for the Shield EZ and I think it fit and came back out OK. But closer checking showed the trigger guard wasn't locking in with the EZ holster so the gun would fall out too easily, that's not an option.

I did more searching last night and found a DeSantis Gun Hide leather holster that seems to fit it like a glove. It could maybe stand to be just a wee bit tighter fit but it will stay in holster for any moves I'm likely to make. I don't stand on my head or do cartwheels these days.

Only thing I don't like about this holster is, it is an IWB holster for concealed carry and I do not as a rule carry concealed. I prefer open carry with an OWB holster. I'll wait and see what accommodation Fobus can make for me but I have found a Safariland holster with level 2 retention I think I can live with and it is an OWB  holster and uses a paddle to attach which is what I prefer.

Since I bought the Shield plus, I haven't carried any other gun. I just like the size, weight, the capacity, the feel and how it shoots. I should just sell my regular shield that I bought right after they started making them, because I doubt I will ever carry it again. Although I have never sold a gun. traded, but not sold.  My regular shield had a safety that I didn't like all that much. the safety is small and not all that easy to thumb off. So I started carrying a .45 shield with no safety that I like alot also, but haven't carried it since I got the shield plus. Which also has no safety.  I got the urban carry lockleather OWB holster that I like a good bit. It has a retention clip that is adjustable.  Speaking of holsters. I thought I was sold on the crossbreed IWB holsters. In fact I own 4 of them for different guns. then I decided I didn't like IWB carry. So they went into the box of probably never to be used again holsters.     
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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2022, 01:47:30 AM »
all shield mags are on the tough side to fill. I found if i leave them loaded for a few months it gets easier so everytime i put them away i put them away topped off. if you dont have one pick up a couple of these https://www.maglula.com/product/uplula-9mm-to-45acp
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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2022, 03:05:54 AM »
all shield mags are on the tough side to fill. I found if i leave them loaded for a few months it gets easier so everytime i put them away i put them away topped off. if you dont have one pick up a couple of these https://www.maglula.com/product/uplula-9mm-to-45acp

Yes that is one thing about the shields. Their mags are not easy to load. I have thought about getting one of those mag loaders. I have never used one. So they do work well? 
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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2022, 03:29:20 AM »
Speaking of decreasing eyesight, I decided to practice instinct point shooting back in the summer in my backyard. I set up 3 posts and stapled paper plates to them and practiced with a Crossman CO ²  357 Python knockoff revolver.
Starting at 10 feet and moving back in 5 foot increments. The idea is to make the handgun like your natural pointing finger. At 25 feet I was getting good fast hits on 10 inch paper plates. Next step is to go to a range and practice with my SAR. But this will be a challenge with the Model 60 snubbie. But in a crisis situation this training maybe the best way to go...
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Likewise my aging eyes have made it harder to focus on a rear sight, a front sight, and the target all at once. Especially have noticed this with shooting and hunting with my flintlock which now is Pa's flintlock deer season. Tough to get close enough to deer now that they have seen hunting pressure since archery season began. I have passed up a couple further shots that I would have taken years ago due to not being able to see sights as well.  Anyway I also have practiced point shooting, and it works to practice it. I have become confident that by just using instinctive point shooting I can make consistent hits at 25 feet. Another way to practice is to just do it with an empty firearm in your home, where you pull the gun up looking at a point on the wall. then look at your sights to verify your pointing aim.  It is definitely a skill you can get better at by some practice.
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Re: CHRISTmas eve shooting session
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2022, 04:30:41 AM »
all shield mags are on the tough side to fill. I found if i leave them loaded for a few months it gets easier so everytime i put them away i put them away topped off. if you dont have one pick up a couple of these https://www.maglula.com/product/uplula-9mm-to-45acp
I can't address centerfire mag loaders, but I have their loader for 10/22 mags and they make loading a breeze for my old decrepit hands.
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