Pickup trucks...non-big three

[ironglow]

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   Meanwhile.... from the heavy duties, to perhaps the lightest duty..  Yep!  Mr. Crosley was persistent !

  Note the sliding side windows..

   

[Bob Riebe]

International used their on vee-eight engines and Jeep was the last user of the AMC 360.

For what it is worth, before AMC bought Jeep in 1971, the Gladiator truck engine could have been:

AMC (Nash)   327 V-8
Jeep Tornado 230 I-6
AMC              232 I-6
Buick             350 V-8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Gladiator_(SJ)

[Lloyd Smale]

i believe they used the 4 cyl flat head in both the cab forward and standard pickups too. They used the buick 231 based v6 too but  i think only in commandos and cjs.

[ironglow]

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    As I recall, regular Jeeps left the flat head engines when they left the flat hoods to cover them..  I don't know what  civilians called them beyond CJ2 for the flat head model.  In the Army it was the difference between M38 and M38A1.   

  Those later 4 cyl engines were called F-head engines,4 valves in the head and 4 valves in the block.  Externally, looked like an OHV engine.
     I always liked Jeeps, but I got ripped on one new one, I bought in 1978.  I think it was because it was built
  by AMC, just as they were about to quit business.
 
    It had the bigger 6 cyl engine, something like 256 cu in..  No power steering..so many turns lock-to-lock.. if you got in a skid on ice, you couldn't turn thewheel fast enough to recover very well.  ..Besides, that heavy engine up front, didn't help it any in 2WD..

   First time I put it in 4WD, I found that the transfer was such that you could put it in 4WD..but you could, if not careful, go right through the 4WD notch, and not have complete gear contact.

  One day, while cleaning the interior, I discovered the the steering wheel was badly molded..some of the steel hoop inside was showing on the surface of the wheel...just painted to match the black plastic..and let go.

  By the time I got rid of it (about 2 years) rust was already peeking through in a couple places.

  In1998, I bought a Chrysler made Jeep Wrangler Sport.  It had a 4 cyl engine, set well back toward the firewall, it was an excellent vehicle in every way.

   

[Lloyd Smale]

Those later 4 cyl engines were called F-head engines,4 valves in the head and 4 valves in the block.  Externally, looked like an OHV engine.

learned something today. I always heard the f hed motor in reference to the flat head but in fact the flat head was the L head. Never knew they made a motor with intake valves in the head and exhaust valves in the block.

[Lloyd Smale]

My last tj was a 2ooo 4cyl. I had two 4.0 6s before that. Picked up that  4 banger because it was a great deal and found out why. It was so underpowered it was about dangerous. If you got behind a truck on the road doing 45 you needed about a 2 mile long straight away to pass him. It would do 65 on the flat wide open maybe a bit more if you let it run wide open for a LONG TIME. Bring it up to 60 in 4th and shift into 5th and thats where you stayed. About any incline made a down shift mandatory. My grandaughter wanted it bad. I woudnt give it to her because i thought it was so underpowered it was dangerous so i sold it and bought anohter 4.0 to give her and then bought my 2015 jk. the old 4.0s were great engines but the jk is just head and shoulders better then the tj in every way. Just steer clear of the first few years of the jk with that pos 3.8 liter motor I think they used them up to 2012 when they changed to the 3.6 which is a better motor hands down then the 3.8. Id take another tj with the 4.0 over a jk with that pos motor. But there will never be another 4 cyl jk in my yard. Did do fair in the woods and i could see leaving one at camp to just drive the dirt roads but you can have them on pavement. I will say that 2.5 4cyl was a reliable motor. My son in law took it at least a dozen  times to the southern part of michigan. He would hit the freeway at the mackinaw bridge and drive near 300 miles on the freeway with his foot planted on the floor all the way and turn around and do the same comming back. You couldnt pay me to make that trip in that thing. . When i sold it it had a 110k on it and didnt burn a drop of oil.

[Bob Riebe]

Those later 4 cyl engines were called F-head engines,4 valves in the head and 4 valves in the block.  Externally, looked like an OHV engine.

learned something today. I always heard the f hed motor in reference to the flat head but in fact the flat head was the L head. Never knew they made a motor with intake valves in the head and exhaust valves in the block.

https://www.jeeptech.com/engine/hurricane134.html

A little write up on the F head Hurricane engine.

[ironglow]

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   OK..here's where I break the pattern myself..because I will show a couple from the "big three", simply because many don't realize that the big three produced trucks under another name.
  First the DeSoto...by Chrysler, of course..

  Then the 1939 Plymouth...by the same

  ...And how about the 1939 Ford Marmon..produced by Marmon-Herrington, it was at one time,   only way to get a
 Ford based 4WD pickup.  Marmon-Herrington also made Ford based snowplow trucks, to compete with Oshkosh and Walters Snowfighters.

   I know just a few years ago both Plymouth abd Dodge produce some mini-pickups, but they were really rebadged Mitsubishi trucks.  How many know that Mitsubishi produced the fearsome Zero fighter plane of WW2 ?


 

[ironglow]

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   Then of course, comes the Mercury truck from Canada.  It seems a few short years ago, when somebody here on GBO was reporting upon his Monarch pickup; monarch being another Canadian name for mercury.

[ironglow]

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   BTW; Kawasaki fans, don't chuckle over Mitsubishi producing the Zero fighter aircraft.  Kawasaki produced the Ki-100 fighter as well as the Kawasaki Tony..a knockoff of the Messerschmitt BF109..

[Bob Riebe]

After the end of WWII, Mercedes struggled to restart manufacture. Most of its plants had been bombed, and a few of its key suppliers were now in Russia-occupied East Germany. The company had to get crafty. So it restarted production of the 170 model in 1946 mostly by patching together pre-war tooling that dated back to 1936. To address the immediate needs of post-war Germany, all 214 units produced that first year were pickups and sedan deliveries. Given the limited resources at the time—no coal, no, steel, and even no power much of the time—the lines of these trucks are remarkably clean.

The 170 is a rare site in the U.S., but there are examples all over the rest of the world, as they were often built under license contracts. While Americans do not always think of Mercedes when discussing pickup trucks, the company has a deep and long history of building quality utility vehicles. Pickup variants of Mercedes vehicles were offered up until the late 1960s. Classy hot rod project anyone?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/car-design/news/a29742/eight-cool-pickups/

There was one for sale in Taos, NM 4 years ago for a obscenely high price,(same dude had tried to sell it before) with a 4 cyl. 40 hp diesel.
From reading comments from one dude who had , had, one  if the diesel goes pfft, no one will fix it, but the truck also came with a 44 hp, 107 in.cu. gasoline engine.
From what I read Mercedes Benz built pickups in Brazil and Argentina some years, including up to the eighties.
Now this one , put that small SOHC 276 in. cu. V-8 in there , that would be a hot truck.

[VA Rifleman]

Left out the best Mercedes. The Unimog.

[ironglow]

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  OK ...let's start another thread for imported trucks...some of those were also ineresting...  I saw some real
   doozies when I lived in Europe.

[VA Rifleman]

Wow. Tough thread. Lol

When you wanna cruz the hood, Gangsta style. Nothing beats a black 37 Packard.

[ironglow]

Wow. Tough thread. Lol

When you wanna cruz the hood, Gangsta style. Nothing beats a black 37 Packard.

   Now, there's one on me..  I didn't know Packard produced one.....but it surely exudes CLASS !