Putin says some of Macron's ideas could form basis to move forward

[Bob Riebe]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-some-macrons-ideas-could-form-basis-move-forward-2022-02-07/

France saved the U.S. buttocks in the War of 1812, it would be a shame, though probably best, if France saves Biden's moronic actions from himself.

[Mule 11]

Let’s go nato and let’s go brandon...

[orerancher]

I think the DNC and the NWO, would LIke to See WWIII Breakout,  The USA would Lose.... Then there would be Nothing to Stop Them...

[Lloyd Smale]

I wonder if russia doesnt invade and this turns around how bidens liberal left will try to spin it to give him credit for it.

[ironglow]

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  Still trying to figure out how France aided the US during the 1812 fracas.  Each at differing times 1806/1807 set up trade embargoes on US goods.  Of course, at that point, England and France had been fighting for decades.
  The great aid they provided in the waters off Yorktown during the Revolutionary War, and furnishing troops for the siege, were of course to aid French interests. 
   Could the Louisiana purchase (1803) be considered a benefit to the US, so far as the war is concerned?
   It looks more like Napoleon was running out of fund to prosecute his war against the British.
 
  Meanwhile, no surprise Putin would like anything Macron would offer...he will gladly accept any form of surrender he can get.

  Of course, Putin would greatly enjoy curtailing NATO, while he revitalizes the old USSR....it seems like we spent about 50 years of cold war...just trying to contain such expansionist efforts.

[Lloyd Smale]

Probably more like hitler talking to Chamberlin telling him they wouldnt attack when hitler had full intentions of attacking and was laughing behind his back. 

[Bob Riebe]

The heavily Russian Donbas region is what this is all about; Donbas is 3/5 the size of the state of Delaware, or 3 time the size of Rhode Island.

[nw_hunter]

The GOP and the DNC are both controlled by the NWO.

[ironglow]

IG...
You keep mentioning Putin's expansion.
What expansion are you stuck on exactly?
If you're talking about economic expansion in the world business landscape, yes no doubt like everyone else.
If you're talking about Crimea, that was by vote and the people of Crimea chose to rejoin Russia rather than be ruled by outsiders and discriminated.
Probably the Donblast region would also love to rejoin Russia too, given the West and NATO's puppet Ukraine government's discrimination.
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   Sorry; but we will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one.  One of the world's worst kept secrets, is that Putin (former KGB) would like to reconstitute the old USSR.
   Now some lame=brained voter have place weaklings in charge here...so he is going all out !

   There are a few old-line commies, who want their lives "managed", in each of the former Soviet republics, and Putin with his KGB training, is exploiting them.
   He did it in the Crimea..now he is pushing into Ukraine.  If he succeeds in the Ukraine..next are the Baltic states..
    https://www.fpri.org/article/2020/12/russian-encroachment-in-the-baltics-the-role-of-russian-media-and-military-2/

   I f the Biden bums stay where they are, he will succeed..then we will face a unite Gog/Magog threat, with a weak Europe, a dissolute South America and a couple class-by-themselves weaklings "leading" North America..

[ironglow]

BTW;   Russia may not try Finland right off, since they tried that once before, in 1939-40, and got the big red bear's nose bloodied really well in that "winter war" !
    Incidentally, there was a Finnish farmer named Simo Hayha, a darn good sniper..who accounted for a confirmed 505 Russians eating Finnish snow.

  Maybe they should have sent Vasily Zaytsev over from Stalingrad to visit Simo...  hmm, wonder how that would have turned out?

[Bob Riebe]

   Sorry; but we will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one.  One of the world's worst kept secrets, is that Putin (former KGB) would like to reconstitute the old USSR.
   Now some lame=brained voter have place weaklings in charge here...so he is going all out !

That is the same paranoid rhetoric Democrats, Rinos and Republicans who have to face an election are trotting out right now.

The Ukraine is slightly smaller than Texas, it is bordered by two NATO nations on the South West; Russia cannot afford thens of thousands of death, and millions of dollars an all out war would bring.
Russia NEEDS that money the pipeline will bring in, just like the U.S. needs the pipeline our left-wing fool of a president killed.

There was an article a week ago, I should have copied and pasted, by a euro online rag, that said the buddy-buddy looking meeting between Russia and China is bs, Russia does not trust China, period, but right now it is just what they need to play the fools in Washington .

[Bob Smith]

TM7, you are certainly earning whatever the Russians are paying for spreading their propaganda.

[ironglow]

   Sorry; but we will just have to "agree to disagree" on this one.  One of the world's worst kept secrets, is that Putin (former KGB) would like to reconstitute the old USSR.
   Now some lame=brained voter have place weaklings in charge here...so he is going all out !

That is the same paranoid rhetoric Democrats, Rinos and Republicans who have to face an election are trotting out right now.
   

The Ukraine is slightly smaller than Texas, it is bordered by two NATO nations on the South West; Russia cannot afford thens of thousands of death, and millions of dollars an all out war would bring.
Russia NEEDS that money the pipeline will bring in, just like the U.S. needs the pipeline our left-wing fool of a president killed.

    Note; i didn't say Putin is or is not going to invade Ukraine.  I said Putin wants to reclaim all the lands the USSR fooled away back in the 1990s. 
    The fact that Biden has been handing over advantages to our adversaries...only goes further to show how he is part of the globalist power grab...apparently in total disregard for America.

There was an article a week ago, I should have copied and pasted, by a euro online rag, that said the buddy-buddy looking meeting between Russia and China is bs, Russia does not trust China, period, but right now it is just what they need to play the fools in Washington .
   That is one writer's opinion...others differ...remains to be seen if he/she is correct over the long haul..

     Do you trust Putin enough to believe he won't grab Belarus soon as he gets a chance ?
 
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/leaders-russia-belarus-discuss-deeper-integration-67846576

   ...And how about Kazackstan, Azerbijan and Moldova...he wants them too...

   Keep in mind..sleepers here, didn't want to believe Hitler was expansionist...even though they had been reading "Mein Kamph" for nearly 10 years..

[Bob Riebe]

Russia cannot grow without western money; China owns a good chunk of the U.S., Russia lives off of itself.

Russian Military is just now just starting to produce new/modified aircraft for it Air force; it cannot afford a war that will stop that in the blink of an eye.
Belarussians do not want to be a state of Russia  but compared to their leader, Putin is benevolent.

[billy_56081]

Wars and rumors of wars!

[Bob Riebe]

https://behorizon.org/making-sense-of-the-recent-unrest-in-kazakhstan/

Geopolitics Task Force Brief

January 12, 2022| 12 min read
Background

    On January 2 (Sunday), a spike in liquified petroleum gas (LPG) prices triggered protests in Zhanaozen, a city located in the oil-rich Western part of the country. The protests quickly spilled over to other cities in the western oil region and then to the whole country to include the capital Nur-Sultan and Almaty. The protests about gas prices turned into venues to voice long-standing grievances regarding the backwardness of the region, inequality in the distribution of wealth, and the inability of the leaders to resolve their problems.
    On January 5 (Wednesday), violent clashes began. The peaceful protests across the country were eclipsed by vexing scenes of unrest, featuring looting, vandalizing, and storming government buildings. Reportedly, violent organized groups overtook the movement even seizing the airport. The president declared a two-week state-of-emergency. On the same day, the President stripped his predecessor, Nursultan Nazarbayev of his role as leader of the security council and accepted the government’s resignation.
    Early on January 6 (Thursday), President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev said in a televised statement: “Today I appealed to the heads of CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organisation) states to assist Kazakhstan in overcoming this terrorist threat.” The same day, Russian troops helped recapture of the airport from protesters. According to local media, as many as 3000 troops – approximately 100 Armenian – were quickly deployed to Kazakhstan.
    On January 7 (Friday), President Tokayev said “Terrorists continue to damage public and private property and use weapons against citizens. I gave the order to law enforcement agencies and the army to shoot to kill without warning.”
    As of January 9 (Sunday), the situation was calm across the country. The office of President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev said the order was restored. According to official statements of Kazakh authorities, 164 people were killed and 5800 people were detained during the unrest.
    On January 11 (Monday), Tokayev announced: “The main mission of the CSTO peacekeeping forces has been successfully completed” and they will be expected to leave within 2 days....

https://rightandfree.com/news/2022/02/07/high-risk-level-3-lab-under-siege-in-kazakhstan

...A U.S. funded BSL-3 laboratory in Kazakhstan that studies viral strains, including COVID-19, is reported to have fallen into the hands of protestors during the uprising. Kazakhstani officials have denied reports that the controversial $102 million dollar laboratory was compromised — however, Russian media outlets reported a potential leak of deadly pathogens — similar to what some think may have occurred in 2019 at China’s virology laboratory in Wuhan, which set off a global pandemic.

Several Kazakhstani government offices, an airport and multiple buildings of interest were overtaken temporarily by government-opposed demonstrators during the two week incursion. Official Russian news agencies pointed out multiple social media reports claiming the Level-3 lab was overtaken by unidentified individuals near the deadly viral laboratory, including some seen wearing chemical protection suits.

Reports cited well-coordinated armed groups alongside protesters. Photos have emerged of weapons seized in the riots, and nearly 6,000 individuals have been detained - many being foreign nationals. It is not clear at this time where the alleged foreign provocateurs are from.

The laboratory was built in 2017 for the study of dangerous biological outbreaks, including the study of Covid-19 and other significantly more deadly viruses. The laboratory was funded in-part by American tax dollars, but U.S. personnel were not involved in the lab’s work at the time, according to Kazakhstani officials.

...Upon dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991, the weaponized plague virus and a number of other dangerous pathogen related research remained behind with little to no security. Many Soviet researchers instantly lost their employment and were left with nothing. To avoid starvation, some laboratory scientists sold off critical bio-weaponry secrets across Central Asia and the Middle East, while the remaining research materials were distributed to various labs around the world.

A serious biosecurity threat persists in former Soviet Union countries like Kazakhstan, where the Level-3 viral lab may have been temporarily occupied. The Russian government has at least five ultra-secretive “anti-plague” institutes in the region, with Kazakhstan being a contributor.

Officials in the Zhambyl region of northern Kazakhstan say there are plans in place to build a Level-4 laboratory and underground storage for the collection of deadly and highly volatile virus strains in 2025....