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The Russia vs Ukraine timeline..
« on: April 30, 2022, 01:21:50 AM »
   At the breakup of the old USSR, every eastern Europe breakaway client state wanted complete  freedom fom Russian domination.
  The Slavik countries, were perhaps the most insistent.  When Putin seized power in Russia..one of his early moves was to break agreements, and invade the independent state of Georgia.

     In any case here is the timeline of relations between Russia and the Ukraine.
     https://www.npr.org/2022/02/12/1080205477/history-ukraine-russia

    One salient point, when th ebreakup ofth eold USSR took place, many of the old uSSR's nuclear weapons were inthe Ukraine. At thattime, Ukraine was the 3rd largest nuclear power.
  In 1991, the Ukrainians held a referendum, and 92% voted for a clean break from Russia and it's influence.
   
      The new Russia..the one now led by Putin, wanted those weapons back, and the Ukraine wanted Russia to butt out of the Ukraine's business.
So, in 1994, Pres Clinton organized "The Budapest Memorandum"wherein Russia got their nukes back and Russia promised ..no invasion, no messing in Ukrainian government issues.

  Ukraine signed on, and Russia..the same Russia Putin now commands, also signed..

  Atbthat time, our president promised that we would come to the Ukraine's aid if the Budapest agreement was violated..
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/12/1080205477/history-ukraine-russia

  A good lesson there..be careful who we elect for president...and no president should make promises, if they don't intend to keep them!

   After the new Russia in the early 1990's signed off onthe breakaway republics, Putin started attacking them one-by-one.  Georgia, Kazakhstan, then the Crimea...

  Since Putin seized power, there have been wide spread poisonings across Europe.. of politicals who
 are opposed to Putin, to include the one who led the "orange revolution", opposing Putin's hand picked candidate for Ukraine president.
  https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putin-the-poisoner/

   Does historic King Herod Antipas come to mind ?
   
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Re: The Russia vs Ukraine timeline..
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2022, 03:30:27 AM »
In addition, many of Putin’s political foes have lost their balance, toppling out of high rise windows.

Brings up the question. If Putin is battling the WEF, why aren’t Klaus Schwab and associates succumbing to rare poisons and falling from high buildings?

Got to be cheaper and more effective then destroying Ukraine.
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Re: The Russia vs Ukraine timeline..
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2022, 02:11:37 PM »
 The world needs our Seals to do to Putin what they did to Osama.  That little barstad has forfeited his right to exist.
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Re: The Russia vs Ukraine timeline..
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2022, 02:27:22 AM »
In addition, many of Putin’s political foes have lost their balance, toppling out of high rise windows.

Brings up the question. If Putin is battling the WEF, why aren’t Klaus Schwab and associates succumbing to rare poisons and falling from high buildings?

Got to be cheaper and more effective then destroying Ukraine.

   As I just mentioned in another thread..  Yes we don't like the WEF, and we believe it has sinister applications for any vestiginal freedoms in this world !

  ..But because Putin is now being countered by some world leaders who are likely WEF supporters, that in no way makes Putin is the "good guy"..or anyone's "knight in shining armor"..

    The struggle between Putin and the rest, strikes me as similar to the Shiite vs Sunni struggles in the Islamic world.
   Both 'bad eggs' IMO...   The only difference being that at this moment, Putin is the one most actively pursuing the killing of innocents.
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