Russian Rockets Kill Two! 15 Miles Into Poland!

[Dee]

And awaaayyyy we goooo. Its the United States fault. 

No doubt the United States will do the heavy lifting if retaliation is in order. Thank goodness we have a "wartime president" in office.

Foxes retired generals, colonels, custodians, ect, are all weighing in.

And there was president Bidens emergency news conference where he said: "no" 

[billy_56081]

Awesome!

[Ranger99]

Yeah

Shoulda bought gasoline today
when I had the chance

[ironglow]

 It seems a bit early to pronounce the origin of those rockets.  Could be a Russian attack...or it could be something done
   to look like a Russian attack.
 
  It is hard to believe..but sometimes it looks like the Dems are trying to provoke a war with Russia.  It doesn't seem that they could
   possibly be that STUPID !

   You don't play grab-azz with a nuclear power..

[billy_56081]

I've heard they were S300s. Those don't have the range to hit Poland from Russian territory.

[Dee]

I don't know if they were Russian, Ukrainian, United States, or Ethiopian. The whole thing is and, was a mess. This mornin they're saying it was likely a Ukrainian missile fired by mistake, which makes more sense, if anything there actually makes any sense.

[ironglow]

S300 are air defense missiles.
Ukraine still has and tries to use them to shoot down the Russian air attack weapons which is ongoing.

There's a pretty good rumor about behind the scenes peace talks happening.  Wouldn't be surprised if the coke head zealot Zelenskyy tried to sabotage those talks while blowhard Joe is in Bali..,
.

  Maybe they can get something accomplished..if Biden, AOC and the rest of the dummkoph's stay away from that meeting..
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   BTW:  You may be seeing some typos in my post..sorry.  My son got me a new laptop...which has numbers and symbols on he keypad and I am struggling to keep from making typographical errors..

[DDZ]

The POS Zelinsky was saying the United States and NATO needed to attack Russia because they lobbed missiles into Poland. This after knowing very well the rockets were launched from Ukraine, and by Ukraine. 

[Dee]

Saw that, but it seems ALL world leaders, regardless of the size of their country is "POS".

[DDZ]

Yes Zelinsky and company is doing everything it can to get the United States into war with Russia, and we are gradually heading there.  I think the guy in the video is spot on. The rockets were deliberately launched into Poland.  How does Zelinsky continue to get away with this provocation and lies? 

[Bob Riebe]

I did not read every post here, but even some conservatives do not accept what the Ukranain leadr babbled out.

[mcbammer]

    None of us know how  Ukraine  is going to turn out , but I  wouldnt drive a nail into Russia's coffin just yet like the Main stream media   reports . Russia's 
 current strategy  is death by a thousand cuts .  A bomb here and a bomb there .

[Dee]

    None of us know how  Ukraine  is going to turn out , but I  wouldnt drive a nail into Russia's coffin just yet like the Main stream media   reports . Russia's 
 current strategy  is death by a thousand cuts .  A bomb here and a bomb there .

Yeah, Russias' scorched earth policy of killing as many civilians as possible, may eventually wear them down.

[Dee]

I did not read every post here, but even some conservatives do not accept what the Ukranain leadr babbled out.

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Just because Zelenskyy, the Kiev Cokehead, was caught lying again trying to start WW3; that's no reason not to send him another unaccounted for 50 billion dollars.   Riiight?
..

I doubt anyone here knows whether Zelensky is a "cokehead", but nobody can deny hes' loyal to his country. Hes' staying hooked in the absolute worst of times, when most would have ran.

As for the billions of dollars sent there by our government, while our own borders are wide open, and our border states are suffering, is obscene.
Just last night, a border agent was killed in a gunfight with smugglers.

[Mule 11]

Read statistics stating that 1 out of 180 people in the U.S. will be murdered in their lifetime if the current trend continues.

[nw_hunter]

I did not read every post here, but even some conservatives do not accept what the Ukranain leadr babbled out.

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Just because Zelenskyy, the Kiev Cokehead, was caught lying again trying to start WW3; that's no reason not to send him another unaccounted for 50 billion dollars.   Riiight?
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Washington in his farewell address had this to say.

Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct. And can it be that good policy does not equally enjoin it? It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and at no distant period a great nation to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt that in the course of time and things the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost by a steady adherence to it? Can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices?

In the execution of such a plan nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur.

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The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.

Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.

Our detached and distant situation invites and enables us to pursue a different course. If we remain one people, under an efficient government, the period is not far off when we may defy material injury from external annoyance; when we may take such an attitude as will cause the neutrality we may at any time resolve upon to be scrupulously respected; when belligerent nations, under the impossibility of making acquisitions upon us, will not lightly hazard the giving us provocation; when we may choose peace or war, as our interest, guided by justice, shall counsel.

Why forego the advantages of so peculiar a situation? Why quit our own to stand upon foreign ground? Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice?

It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far, I mean, as we are now at liberty to do it, for let me not be understood as capable of patronizing infidelity to existing engagements. I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs that honesty is always the best policy. I repeat, therefore, let those engagements be observed in their genuine sense. But in my opinion it is unnecessary and would be unwise to extend them.

Taking care always to keep ourselves by suitable establishments on a respectable defensive posture, we may safely trust to temporary alliances for extraordinary emergencies.

Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand, neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the Government to support them, conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied as experience and circumstances shall dictate; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that by such acceptance it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard....

Though in reviewing the incidents of my Administration I am unconscious of intentional error, I am nevertheless too sensible of my defects not to think it probable that I may have committed many errors. Whatever they may be, I fervently beseech the Almighty to avert or mitigate the evils to which they may tend. I shall also carry with me the hope that my country will never cease to view them with indulgence, and that, after forty-five years of my life dedicated to its service with an upright zeal, the faults of incompetent abilities will be consigned to oblivion, as myself must soon be to the mansions of rest.

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I doubt anyone here knows whether Zelensky is a "cokehead", but nobody can deny hes' loyal to his country. Hes' staying hooked in the absolute worst of times, when most would have ran.

As for the billions of dollars sent there by our government, while our own borders are wide open, and our border states are suffering, is obscene.
Just last night, a border agent was killed in a gunfight with smugglers.