Name Changing

[nw_hunter]

We can't have anything positive about the South left in History. Tear down it's statues, and change the name-of every military installation named after it's Civil War Generals. Factual history isn't important. Only Leftist history is acceptable.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they dig up Lee, and put his remains on trial as a war criminal.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/so-long-fort-bragg-welcome-fort-liberty-the-pentagons-naming-commission-recommendations-take-effect

[Dee]

Ignore history, and your condemned to repeat it. They say.

In the last 60+ years, the real reasons for that "Civil"? War have been so distorted, lied about, and denied, and with many falling for the lies, and denials, what difference does it make anyway?

America, i.e. the "United" States is runnin head long into ruination, and the brake lines are empty.

About all thats left is "personal integrity" and "personal values", and the "personal decision" of: What are "you personally" willing to put up with, and go along with.

[ironglow]

  Sad, but true, "history is written by the victors".. (Winston Churchill)..  Often attributed to Churchill, but surely
  There must have been realization of the fact, long before Churchill's time.

       Any diligent student of history can eventually find the truth, but they may have to search and put personal
     prejudices aside.

  Today, it can only be history ignoramuses who are calling for such action, because if they did know anything about the subject, they wouldn't be doing what they are  trying to do.

   ..But then, who said these clowns are thinking at all?

    Below, see perhaps two of the Civil war generals most deserving of admiration..  Followed by my poersonal Civil War favorite.

[Bob Riebe]

Ecclesiastes 1
Darby Translation

1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities! all is vanity.

3 What profit hath man of all his labour wherewith he laboureth under the sun?

4 [One] generation passeth away, and [another] generation cometh, but the earth standeth for ever.

5 The sun also riseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to its place where it ariseth.

6 The wind goeth towards the south, and turneth about towards the north: it turneth about continually, and the wind returneth again to its circuits.

7 All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full: unto the place whither the rivers go, thither they go again.

8 All things are full of toil; none can express it. The eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which will be done: and there is nothing new under the sun.

10 Is there a thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? It hath been already in the ages which were before us.

11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be remembrance of things that are to come with those who shall live afterwards.

12 I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem.

13 And I applied my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens: this grievous occupation hath God given to the children of men to weary themselves therewith.

14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and pursuit of the wind.

15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight; and that which is wanting cannot be numbered

[nw_hunter]

  Sad, but true, "history is written by the victors".. (Winston Churchill)..  Often attributed to Churchill, but surely
  There must have been realization of the fact, long before Churchill's time.

       Any diligent student of history can eventually find the truth, but they may have to search and put personal
     prejudices aside.

  Today, it can only be history ignoramuses who are calling for such action, because if they did know anything about the subject, they wouldn't be doing what they are  trying to do.

   ..But then, who said these clowns are thinking at all?

    Below, see perhaps two of the Civil war generals most deserving of admiration..  Followed by my poersonal Civil War favorite.

Only this time the changes are not by the victors, but by a movement years later to alter everything to fit the narrative of the socialists. These clowns know exactly what they are doing, and doing a good job of it. They use the race Bull shite to attack in this case, and the LBHGQTFSIYTBN (Faggot) Bullshite to come at us from another angle. Keep us divided, while they destroy the foundation that made us what we are, in this case....were!

[Dee]

  Sad, but true, "history is written by the victors".. (Winston Churchill)..  Often attributed to Churchill, but surely
  There must have been realization of the fact, long before Churchill's time.

       Any diligent student of history can eventually find the truth, but they may have to search and put personal
     prejudices aside.

  Today, it can only be history ignoramuses who are calling for such action, because if they did know anything about the subject, they wouldn't be doing what they are  trying to do.

   ..But then, who said these clowns are thinking at all?

    Below, see perhaps two of the Civil war generals most deserving of admiration..  Followed by my poersonal Civil War favorite.

Only this time the changes are not by the victors, but by a movement years later to alter everything to fit the narrative of the socialists. These clowns know exactly what they are doing, and doing a good job of it. They use the race Bull shite to attack in this case, and the LBHGQTFSIYTBN (Faggot) Bullshite to come at us from another angle. Keep us divided, while they destroy the foundation that made us what we are, in this case....were!

Biden and Harris are in the presidency. The democrats hold the senate, and the Republicans have the narrowest of a majority in the House. Seems to me that they are the victors.

[orerancher]

Even worse is all the federal  judges  Berry and Biden  are appointing...

[Dee]

For hundreds of years the rich man has started wars, but the little man does the fighting.

This purging of Confederate Generals names off of military bases. I'm surprised they were ever named after those generals in the first place.

And why is, after over 150 years, is the North and South still at odds over the actual issues that started that war in the 1st place.

What you older guys up north were taught about the causes, and what we Southern boys were taught about that war was way different.

You northern guys are convinced that your version of that history is the correct version. Your confident your government THE VICTORS told you the truth.

Well, you fellas seem comfortable ignoring Lincolns' own words and actions concerning blacks. The Morrill Act, the Emancipation Proclamation ect, ect, ect.

We Southern boys wonder why our own government would double the EXPORT TAX on cotton, and other textiles we sold to Europe trying to force Southern farmers to sell their cotton, and other textiles to the north at cheaper prices.

We wonder given our education, and knowledge of the fact that less than 5% of the southern farmers owned slaves, why the rest of the south was willing to fight for something they weren't a part of.

We as Southerners wonder why you guys believe it was about slavery, when Lincoln waited until 1863 to produce the Emancipation Proclamation. Why didn't he do that in 1860?

WE SOUTHERNERS KNOW THAT THE WAR WAS ABOUT "STATES RIGHTS" AND THE OF PRICE COTTON, AND OTHER TEXTILES.

Now, I know that most here are gonna try and make their case against what I've said, by repeating the Northern government THE VICTORS dictated version, with all sorts of this-es, and thats, but as has been said. The victor gets to  record its own version "of history".

So now, your watching "history being re-written AGAIN", to a version you don't like BY THE GOVERNMENT AKA "THE VICTOR", and you know is not true, and THIS TIME "YOU" DON'T LIKE IT.

Well, welcome to the Southerners world. We've been watching it for 163 years.

Now I know there's gonna be a couple a "history buffs" that are gonna "take me to task" on what I just said. So in advance I'm gonna say: I'm gonna stick with Lincolns racist speeches, his attempts at flushing the blacks out of the country, his taxation trying to force Southern compliance, and the obvious common sense of sequences in history, while the "history buffs" regurgitate "the Victor's version".

MY POINT TO THIS IS, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT "I.E. THE VICTOR", HAS BEEN FEEDING EVERYONE
THEIR  VERSION OF HISTORY SINCE ABRAHAM LINCOLN DECLARED WAR ON  "STATES RIGHT".

THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T GIVE YOU THOSE RIGHTS.  GOD DID.

[TrumpWon]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t started a Confederate statue museum/park. A place where one could go to view all the statues that have been removed from public spaces. Could be done in an informative educational way.

[Mule 11]

I’m a northerner and I understand Lincoln’s plan was to ship all Africans back to Africa... Is that racist?

[Mule 11]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t started a Confederate statue museum/park. A place where one could go to view all the statues that have been removed from public spaces. Could be done in an informative educational way.

Maybe some ky jelly and you and your “friends” could enjoy them?

[TrumpWon]

What was your diet as a kid? Probably should have eaten more of these.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/foods-linked-to-better-brainpower

[Bob Riebe]

What was your diet as a kid? Probably should have eaten more of these.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/foods-linked-to-better-brainpower

I had all but fatty fish as part of my regular diet as a youth.
Only had fatty fish when we went up North and got smoked White Fish North of Duluth.

Grew and picked our own veggies and fruit, plus I grew up drinking coffee when my age was still in single digits.
Had nuts extremely often and my one grandfather would collect and crack the Butternuts that grew on boulevard  trees on our block. 

[Mule 11]

What was your diet as a kid? Probably should have eaten more of these.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/foods-linked-to-better-brainpower

Apparently your diet consists of processed foods. “Garbage in, Garbage out”

[scattershot]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t started a Confederate statue museum/park. A place where one could go to view all the statues that have been removed from public spaces. Could be done in an informative educational way.

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Stone Mountain, Georgia would be a good place for that museum. There was talk at one time that the bedwetters wanted to deface that monument, too, but for some reason chickened out.

[Dee]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t started a Confederate statue museum/park. A place where one could go to view all the statues that have been removed from public spaces. Could be done in an informative educational way.

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Stone Mountain, Georgia would be a good place for that museum. There was talk at one time that the bedwetters wanted to deface that monument, too, but for some reason chickened out.

I would prefer that Confederate memorials be left where they are, but I don't get to decide.

[Mule 11]

I’m surprised someone hasn’t started a Confederate statue museum/park. A place where one could go to view all the statues that have been removed from public spaces. Could be done in an informative educational way.

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Re: Name Changing
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Stone Mountain, Georgia would be a good place for that museum. There was talk at one time that the bedwetters wanted to deface that monument, too, but for some reason chickened out.

The damage has already been done and should have been stopped. A museum for broken and desecrated statues is like putting lipstick on a pig or should I say flounder?

[phalanx]

I guess the old West eventually was a mix of the North and the South. And still is , in the late 1800s the Indian wars were a brutal problem. But they now have statues of them all over. Don’t forget the random incursions from Mexico.
Which we are still experiencing even today. They all but worship Poncho Villa.

[mcbammer]

    Interesting take on the civil war and how the west fit in .

          https://youtu.be/bYaYCltLsdk
     
   

[Ranger99]

. . . .  They all but worship Poncho Villa.

They dang sure worship villa around here,
along with che. Some think of the cartel
big wigs as rock stars.  Probably because
many of the cartel heads buy good will
with gifts and cash all over mecks see ko.
Some of these around here are all about
reconquista and will do loud drunken toasts
during their parties. The ones directly to
the west next door do.

[Lloyd Smale]

im totaly against it. Those southern generals were just as brave as the northern ones and fought a valiant war against a stronger and better armed northern army. As to the politics of what and why i could give a rats ass. Ive said it before. That war was rich southerners against rich northerners and the soldiers were just pawns that got  nothing out of it. I think its a travesty to tear down those monuments that mean so much to people. What really makes me shake my head is its the politicians in the south that are doing this. Not the north. Politicians that were an elected majority and represent the wishes of the majority of there people (supposedly anyway) Sad thing is lincoln wasnt shot a week into his presidency. The hate and divisions he caused for this country still happening today. Heck to a sad small minority, this war has never ended. Now there isnt even a mason dixon line. Your enemy lives right next door to you. Works with you and goes to school with your kids. This war is no longer north against the south. Its conservative against liberals and the sooner you grasp that REALITY the better off this country will be. We are split in half between conservative and liberal. What left of us can sure not be a force if were split down the middle bettween north and sought.

[Graybeard]

Here in the south, prolly like up north, blacks live in and are mostly the majority in cities and especially the larger cities. They vote in black politicians and run the cities. They plus some whites who either wish they were black or think they should bend over for blacks to stick it in them are the ones doing this Lloyd.

Pretty much everyone running B'ham our largest city are black, mayor, council, police, sheriff everyone. On the B'ham TV stations about half the folks working there are black and most folks who get interviewed are black.