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The invisible chemicals, called PFAS, were first developed in the 1940s to resist water and heat and are now used in items such as non-stick pans, textiles, fire suppression foams and food packaging.

But the indestructibility of PFAS, per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, means the pollutants have built up over time in the air, soil, lakes, rivers, food, drinking water and even our bodies.

There have been growing calls for stricter regulation for PFAS, which have been linked to a range of serious health issues including liver damage, high cholesterol, reduced immune responses and several kinds of cancer.

To find out PFAS contamination in locally caught fish, a team of researchers analyzed more than 500 samples from rivers and lakes across the United States between 2013 and 2015.

The median level of PFAS in the fish was 9,500 nanograms per kilogram, according to a study published in the journal Environmental Research.

Nearly three quarters of the detected "forever chemicals" were PFOS, one of the most common and hazardous of the thousands of forms of PFAS.

Eating just one freshwater fish equalled drinking water with PFOS at 48 parts per trillion for a month, the researchers calculated.

Last year, the Environmental Protection Agency lowered the level of PFOS in drinking water it considers safe to 0.02 parts per trillion.

The total PFAS level in the freshwater fish was 278 times higher than what has been found in commercially sold fish, the study said.

David Andrews, a senior scientist at the non-profit Environmental Working Group, which led research, told Agence France-Presse he grew up catching and eating fish.

"I can no longer look at a fish without thinking about PFAS contamination," said Andrews, one of the study's authors.

The findings were "particularly concerning due to the impact on disadvantaged communities that consume fish as a source protein or for social or cultural reasons," he added.

"This research makes me incredibly angry because companies that made and used PFAS contaminated the globe and have not been held responsible."

Patrick Byrne, an environmental pollution researcher at the U.K.'s Liverpool John Moores University not involved in the research, said PFAS are "probably the greatest chemical threat the human race is facing in the 21st Century".

"This study is important because it provides the first evidence for widespread transfer of PFAS directly from fish to humans," he told AFP.

Andrews called for much more stringent regulation to bring an end to all non-essential uses of PFAS.

The study comes after Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway and Sweden submitted a proposal to ban PFAS to the EU's European Chemicals Agency on Friday.

The proposal, "one of the broadest in the EU's history," comes after the five countries found that PFAS weren't adequately controlled and bloc-wide regulation was needed, the agency said in a statement.
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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2023, 07:40:22 AM »
 Yaaawwnn....

  Just the fake news, pinch hitting for the demonrats.  The Dems want to destroy the economy of the USA, so they kill our greatest supply of American wealth..petroleum and natural gas, fossil fuel

   But perhaps their allies, the fake news, takes over where the Dems left off.... now trying to kill off our fisheries .
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2023, 08:54:03 AM »
Moved to Baltimore. Couldn’t wait to start fishing in the Bay. Went to the DOW website. Lots of warnings about regular consumption of the fish.
Went to Nebraska with my kid to see the eclipse. Thought we’d do some fishing so I checked their DOW site. Same story, be careful about regular consumption of the fish.
Much more surprised about Nebraska than Baltimore.
We’ve done a pretty good job inadvertently polluting our waters.

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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2023, 09:13:54 AM »
Inadvertent or not, it is a sad, sad state of affairs.

Fifty years ago, in the spring below the damn at the river in town and at a lake by my grandparents farm, when ice went out you could see the bottom of the river and lake clearly under three feet of water.
Has not been that way for over 35 years, plus two fountains that were spring fed, went dry twenty years ago. >:(

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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2023, 02:12:26 PM »
I'm not sure that any fish from a
source that's not declared polluted
would bring extra harm any more
than drinking municipal water or
any kind of prepared food either
from a grocery store or a restaurant.
One of my relatives uses pollution
as an excuse to drink beer and
other alcohol as his only liquids
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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2023, 02:47:25 AM »
my fish are clean my water is clean and right out of the ground and id bet theres more nasty stuff in one frozen pizzas then ive ingested in my whole life eating the fish and drinking well water up here.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2023, 03:20:09 AM »
This depends on where you live.  Lake Martin in Alabama is one of the cleanest lakes in the US.  No industry upstream.  You can see the bottom in 6' of water.  It is over 400' deep in it's deepest point.  Most pollution if any comes from all the homes around the lake.  It has over 400 miles of shoreline.  So, people fertilizing and watering grass and they all have septic systems.  Not polluted yet, but good fishing with bass, bream, crappie, and catfish as well as striped bass. 

I prefer cooking with stainless steel or cast iron vs the non-stick surfaces.  Also, the spray foam for fire prevention and suppression used by the fire departments, especially in auto accidents could run off into rivers and streams.  They spray any gasoline leaks from accidents and then wash it off the road.  Probably should vacuum it up afterwards.  Another would be fire retardent clothing in clothes that are dumped in landfills after they are worn out. 

I know I've read that in Chesapeake bay the oysters have mostly died off due to excess fertilizer run off from golf courses and homes around the bay.  They are now restricting the use of fertilizers around the bay. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2023, 03:27:38 AM »
Been fishing and eating Lake Erie perch, walleye and catfish since the 60's, so it's probably to late for me. I figure that when the Cuyahoga River that runs thru Cleveland caught fire back in the late 60's, it burned up all the chemicals, so I'll hope for the best!! :D 
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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2023, 03:55:43 AM »
  Trumpwon;

  You moved to Baltimore?  ..Good place for you ! ;)  ;D
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2023, 04:22:31 AM »
Yes it was. Only lived there for a year but it was a good one!

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2023, 04:29:40 AM »
Yeah...we understand...
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2023, 05:05:49 AM »
my fish are clean my water is clean and right out of the ground and id bet theres more nasty stuff in one frozen pizzas then ive ingested in my whole life eating the fish and drinking well water up here.

LOL, I will 100% guarantee that is an incorrect statement and will bet whatever you are willing to give up...  Unless of course you don't eat fish.   Although I eat fish 10x more than frozen pizza or any other processed frozen garbage and will continue to do so, I acknowledge the issue of contaminants because of the greed of chemical manufacturers and our corrupt Government for covering up and ignoring this for years if not decades.  If you noticed in the article, the fish samples were taken 7-9 years ago but the article just came out...

https://widnr.widen.net/s/56vrbr2fsv/choose-wisely-2020_web_spreads_updated-1.13.2021

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/-/media/Project/Websites/mdhhs/Folder2/Folder70/Folder1/Folder170/MDCH_EAT_SAFE_FISH_GUIDE_-_UPPER_PENINSULA_WEB.pdf?rev=eb1c5bf6f431489cab3d1c18e6e808a5&hash=577673B20651E617BC0E7555522A077C
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Re: Eating one U.S. fish likened to drinking month's worth of tainted water
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2023, 05:08:12 AM »
To be expected from a guy whose stock and trade is fear mongering and negativity. I enjoyed the rich history, vibrant community, outdoor adventures and the awesome Italian food.

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2023, 07:06:56 AM »
This depends on where you live.  Lake Martin in Alabama is one of the cleanest lakes in the US.  No industry upstream.  You can see the bottom in 6' of water.  It is over 400' deep in it's deepest point.  Most pollution if any comes from all the homes around the lake.  It has over 400 miles of shoreline.  So, people fertilizing and watering grass and they all have septic systems.  Not polluted yet, but good fishing with bass, bream, crappie, and catfish as well as striped bass. 

I prefer cooking with stainless steel or cast iron vs the non-stick surfaces.  Also, the spray foam for fire prevention and suppression used by the fire departments, especially in auto accidents could run off into rivers and streams.  They spray any gasoline leaks from accidents and then wash it off the road.  Probably should vacuum it up afterwards.  Another would be fire retardent clothing in clothes that are dumped in landfills after they are worn out. 

I know I've read that in Chesapeake bay the oysters have mostly died off due to excess fertilizer run off from golf courses and homes around the bay.  They are now restricting the use of fertilizers around the bay.
Farm run-off has done far, far more damage to lake and streams than industrial nasties (that does not mean there is an excuse for dumping mad-made chemicals into lakes.)

Up here , where I am at a farm of more than 80-100 acres was rare, so many wind-brakes, hedge rows, are being ripped out and what once was three of four small farms, is now fields of 80-100 acres.

At that , my home town's old dump was right next to the river; in that dump was where Minnesota, Mining and Manufacturing dumped , and burned  ( as were any ones stuff who dumped there, wind from the South was rather  acrid ) their waste for decades, including 1965 when Minn. had record flooding and that area was flooded. (They shut down and moved the dump a few years later.)
The new town sewage facility is located on top of where was now and the old waste/ashes were just buried.

As I wrote earlier, up to my teens , lake and rivers were clear after ice out, not that way any more.
I have not gone fishing, (real fishing where I catch some, take them home, and skin/scale them,) for a long, long time. but if I did , I would not hesitate to eat any fishes I caught , out of any lake or river.

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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2023, 09:59:58 AM »
point was i could give a crap. Ive ate what i wanted for 66 years and didnt worry about anything i wanted to eat. O have 10-20 years left and I intend to do the same dammed thing. If it cost me 5 years of life to eat fish and steak rather then tofu and salads then start making my box. I know people up here like my grandpa who lived 80 years drinking the water right out of lake superior piped right into his house and whos best freind was a comerical fisherman and gramdpa ate fish (free fish) at least twice a week all his life. People today are a bunch of candy asses. Like a bunch of those liberal hippys who think if you eat a steak your going to die. 
my fish are clean my water is clean and right out of the ground and id bet theres more nasty stuff in one frozen pizzas then ive ingested in my whole life eating the fish and drinking well water up here.

LOL, I will 100% guarantee that is an incorrect statement and will bet whatever you are willing to give up...  Unless of course you don't eat fish.   Although I eat fish 10x more than frozen pizza or any other processed frozen garbage and will continue to do so, I acknowledge the issue of contaminants because of the greed of chemical manufacturers and our corrupt Government for covering up and ignoring this for years if not decades.  If you noticed in the article, the fish samples were taken 7-9 years ago but the article just came out...

https://widnr.widen.net/s/56vrbr2fsv/choose-wisely-2020_web_spreads_updated-1.13.2021

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/-/media/Project/Websites/mdhhs/Folder2/Folder70/Folder1/Folder170/MDCH_EAT_SAFE_FISH_GUIDE_-_UPPER_PENINSULA_WEB.pdf?rev=eb1c5bf6f431489cab3d1c18e6e808a5&hash=577673B20651E617BC0E7555522A077C
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2023, 10:12:43 AM »
point was i could give a crap. Ive ate what i wanted for 66 years and didnt worry about anything i wanted to eat. O have 10-20 years left and I intend to do the same dammed thing. If it cost me 5 years of life to eat fish and steak rather then tofu and salads then start making my box. I know people up here like my grandpa who lived 80 years drinking the water right out of lake superior piped right into his house and whos best freind was a comerical fisherman and gramdpa ate fish (free fish) at least twice a week all his life. People today are a bunch of candy asses. Like a bunch of those liberal hippys who think if you eat a steak your going to die. 
my fish are clean my water is clean and right out of the ground and id bet theres more nasty stuff in one frozen pizzas then ive ingested in my whole life eating the fish and drinking well water up here.

LOL, I will 100% guarantee that is an incorrect statement and will bet whatever you are willing to give up...  Unless of course you don't eat fish.   Although I eat fish 10x more than frozen pizza or any other processed frozen garbage and will continue to do so, I acknowledge the issue of contaminants because of the greed of chemical manufacturers and our corrupt Government for covering up and ignoring this for years if not decades.  If you noticed in the article, the fish samples were taken 7-9 years ago but the article just came out...

https://widnr.widen.net/s/56vrbr2fsv/choose-wisely-2020_web_spreads_updated-1.13.2021

https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/-/media/Project/Websites/mdhhs/Folder2/Folder70/Folder1/Folder170/MDCH_EAT_SAFE_FISH_GUIDE_-_UPPER_PENINSULA_WEB.pdf?rev=eb1c5bf6f431489cab3d1c18e6e808a5&hash=577673B20651E617BC0E7555522A077C

Well your point as typical was tough to decipher...
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2023, 01:14:55 AM »
sure dont know why. pretty easy to understand.  Very little pollution in the fish up here. very little pollution in even the lake water up here. Why should i adjust my diet in fear of something that will never hurt me. That is about like quiting shooting because breathing powder smoke is bad for you. Or stop wrenching on your car or harley because oil and solvents can cause cancer. Comical and hard to understand thing is why some live in fear of all of this bs.. God has your end date stamped in a book already. You arent living forever even if you live in a bubble suit eating any health nut diet. Pretty easy to understand. Im not giving up what i enjoy on just a hunch that it might let me live to be a crippled up old 95 year old.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2023, 08:03:41 AM »
Well to be honest it's irrelevant what an old fart like you does anyway, changing your habits now would do little to nothing.  And I'm not adjusting my fish eating either, as a matter of fact had walleye last night out of Green Bay.  It's more for the developing youth and childbearing women who should really watch out for such contaminants.  The point is that it shouldn't have gotten in the water to begin with, the chemical companies knew what they had at development, profit over all else just like big pharm.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2023, 10:54:40 PM »
My guess is it comes from the same group of scientists that brought you global warming. Same bunch of 60s and 70s hippys that hid college while there neighbors fought in viet nam that say air pollution is killing us but smoke pot every day breathing in the smoke. If its not them its there children that were brain washed growing up with parents wearing bell bottoms. Probably started it because they dont want you to murder little innocent fishys. Just human babies.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2023, 03:13:54 AM »
More forests than farmland around lake Martin in Alabama.  Rolling hills can't be plowed easily, so mostly pine forests. 
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2023, 04:28:56 AM »
The lower Pecos River had a do not eat warning for several years that has been changed to not over so many fish now because of mercury content. It's natural occurring from the soil so nothing can be done about it. I have caught and ate fish at Brantley Dam above Carlsbad in the past but not enough to be hazardous. My fishing has been catch and release for years now even when trout fishing in the upper Pecos which is clear. Today I just drive into the city park and everything I catch goes right back into the lake.

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2023, 02:09:11 AM »
Maybe we should eat that Chinese raised fish...
The kind that feeds on chicken shat..which are caged over top of the fish that live their lives scrubbing against each other.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2023, 11:30:48 AM »
This constant push to make people think that they should go vegan is really tiring. Lead and cadmium in chocolate, and E.coli contaminated vegetables hardly get a notice.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/17/1143239430/dark-chocolate-lead-cadmium-consumer-reports
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2023, 01:16:06 PM »
Maybe we should eat that Chinese raised fish...
The kind that feeds on chicken shat..which are caged over top of the fish that live their lives scrubbing against each other.

Some time when you take a notion,
look at how a good many of the chinese
shrimp and crawdads are raised.
Some of the villages have raw human
sewage piped into the ponds

Yuk.  :(
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2023, 02:06:00 PM »
Maybe we should eat that Chinese raised fish...
The kind that feeds on chicken shat..which are caged over top of the fish that live their lives scrubbing against each other.

Some time when you take a notion,
look at how a good many of the chinese
shrimp and crawdads are raised.
Some of the villages have raw human
sewage piped into the ponds

Yuk.  :(

   No surprise there !   Have you noticed how the world "climate crisis" riders, seem to only go after the USA?

   When was the last time you saw where Al Gore, "Lurch" Kerry, either Obama or Glorious Greta, get upon China's, Russia's, India's, or Venezuela's case... all of which pollute far more than the USA !

  This alone should show that the "climate change" crap is only a Marxist plan to destroy the USA.. and some shallow folks still fall for that shat !

   https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2017/10/24/yes-the-u-s-leads-all-countries-in-reducing-carbon-emissions/?sh=4247129b3535
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2023, 04:12:57 PM »
It's been a long time, but used to
be a trip into mexico wasn't near
as dangerous and you could vacation
for nearly a week like royalty on
what a day's hotel room in the USA
would cost you
When you get away from the touristy
areas, the campesinos literally wallow
in filth. The animals wander in and out
of the shacks and there's the smell of
poop and pee, animal and human alike
everywhere.  I've seen documentaries
of india and places overseas where
they just plod along like their bare feet
aren't covered in filth. Some of the african
tribes are pretty bad as well. You've
probably seen the one where the dinka
tribes literally suck on a cows nether
parts to get urine flowing and douse their
head in the urine flow, supposedly to
tint their hair red. These border jumpers
here poop and pee on the crops they're
picking, and that's where most of the
E coli comes from, although you'll
never hear that officially
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2023, 11:44:11 PM »
yup same ones claim your fish is poisoned will tell you eating red meat will kill you. What it is is there those same peace and love hippys that preach global warming. Its the same liberals who think they know whats best for all of us and there will should be forced onto us. Ive yet to see a death certificate that read "killed by eating fish" The human body can take alot. Fish grown in sewage, shrimp grown in sewage? Not a problem. Heck i just saw on one of those alsakan shows where it was native custom to take seal meat and bury it in the dirt and dig it up a year later rotton as it can get and eat it. They considered it a delicacy. Around here people get nervous if there burger date stamp is 2 days over. How many here have family that ran farms and lived on beef, chicken pork and milk products. Ive got two uncles that were farmers one lived to his mid 80s (he smoked till the day he died) and the other died at 89. They sure as crap werent vegans. Didnt worry about breathing diesel fumes all day or handling sprays to kill weeds ect. They lived long because they didnt sit on there ass behind a computer screen worrying about what will kill them
Living on fear and lettuce!!!!
This constant push to make people think that they should go vegan is really tiring. Lead and cadmium in chocolate, and E.coli contaminated vegetables hardly get a notice.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/17/1143239430/dark-chocolate-lead-cadmium-consumer-reports
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2023, 01:48:20 AM »
  Let's back up a bit...  MSN says one fish caught in US waters is so dirty.. 

   Keep in mind, MSN  stands for 'Microsoft News'...so who owns Microsoft ?  MSN seems to consider itself more a "citizen oif the world", rather than holding any allegiance to the United states..

  So, since they are world wide news....where is their assessment of fish caught in the rivers of China ...or India..

  I don't think we have to wonder about that situation..  Any excuse to condemn the United states.....
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