For any Democrats who may be present..

[ironglow]

   Whether you wish to accept it or not..your Democrat party wants to bring Communism into the United States.

  Oh, they call it other names, such as "Democrat/Socialist" etc..but it is plain old Communism.  Want evidence?

 All you need do, is note how the Democrats are trying to undermine our constitution.... Plus, they never speak of "individual rights", but rather some  kind of "group rights".... which mean zilch !

   In any case, here's a look at how a full  fledged Communist state views the individual, and his 'rights'..

  https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WfVWovCK-88

   Do you REALLY want that for our countrry?

 

[GTS225]

I still have a copy of Orwell's "Animal Farm" in my meager library.

Roger

[TrumpWon]

For any Republicans who may be present.....

Ironically, President Trump and Republicans in Congress themselves blurred the lines between capitalism and socialism, passing the CARES Act to aid businesses and providing $600 payments to unemployed workers in the coronavirus pandemic. Trump also opened federal coffers to rescue farmers who were hurt by his trade disputes with China and other nations.

President Trump was very fond of using the government and being willing to spend money and do things that are socialist.

[ironglow]

For any Republicans who may be present.....

Ironically, President Trump and Republicans in Congress themselves blurred the lines between capitalism and socialism, passing the CARES Act to aid businesses and providing $600 payments to unemployed workers in the coronavirus pandemic. Trump also opened federal coffers to rescue farmers who were hurt by his trade disputes with China and other nations.

President Trump was very fond of using the government and being willing to spend money and do things that are socialist.

  Thank you for being willing to engage in a reasonable discussion

  ..But you seem to have missed the point of contention..  I did not bring up any Covid payments , or their
    wisdom or efficacy etc.

  What I brought up is the most basic and critical rights... inalienable rights, according to the constitution..

  Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, right to be free of unnecessary government interference.

  Just look at what is happening and being brought on by the "wokeists" and their Marxist backers.. Masking the entire population, even though now they admit that the masks did not help.

  Do you think this destruction of individual rights is, good, wise and freedom preserving?

  1) Freedom of Speech..you can't say this word, you must use certain pronouns, you can't say words
     that offend me.  We will cancel your speech..to aid "cancel culture effort.

 2) Freedom of religion..From a culture in which Christianity while being tolerant of other faiths, was a part of everyday happenings, has been told it must stay within certain buildings, preparatory to be being extinguished completely.

 3) Right to keep and bear arms..President Biden recently PROMISED that he was going to get every last "assault rifle" out of private hands Nearly every democrat politician agrees with him.

 4) Freedom of the person.. The Biden admin has either applied or tried to apply, restrictions on the American people such as had never been seen before
 
 Wherever Communism takes over, life is severely regimented by government slavery and mass deaths follow..

    Do you think this destruction of individual rights is, good, wise, and freedom preserving?

  Again, thanks for engaging  intellectually...so here's your chance..  Since this is a discussion of freedom and Constitutional rights.. go ahead and hit me with a half dozen questions concerning where you believe conservatives are killing our rights, constitutional or otherwise.

  I promise I will answer in explanation..then I will proffer you half a dozen questions concerning the left in the
  left in the same way.

   Hey, we may learn something by it !
   

[JBinMN]

Gonna be an interesting topic... 

I wonder how long it will go along, "diplomatically".

Currently I am really just posting to get notifications, but I do have something to add here.

Just so folks do know, I Extremely Dislike Commies/Socialists, or Leftists of any kind. All of them who follow that ideology.

I swore the oath more than once to support & defend the U.S. Constitution, and have not been relieved of the duty that the oath represents.

Communists/Socialists & Leftists all wish to see those God Given Rights, Liberties & Freedoms as set down in the US Constitution, removed,
they do not believe in God, the Almighty,
 and think that the "State"/the "Gubment" should control all facets of folks lives.

All of that which the Communists/Socialists & Leftists are against,
 I am "For"; All that they are "for", I am against.
 Their ideology is repugnant to me & go against all that those men and women, who like I, have done their duty to serve in their countries military, and many have sacrificed life & limb, to protect our country, the USA, protect the US Constitution & furthermore, protect generations of US citizens in order to let those generations continue to have those same God Given Rights, Freedoms, and Liberties.

They are my enemy. Foreign, or Domestic.

So... Yep, this is gonna be an interesting one to follow...

[TrumpWon]

Some label any progressive legislation offered as "socialism" and hence "communism". Stripped of the emotive gloss, there is a reality they avoid, either through indifference or ignorance. 

The United States — like every other country with an advanced economy is already a partly socialist country, with a mixed economy and many government programs that deal with the public good. Social Security, Medicare, the minimum wage, child labor laws, agricultural and energy subsidies, Pell grants to name a few.

Socialism is not communism, don't let them work you into a frenzy

[Bob Riebe]

Some label any progressive legislation offered as "socialism" and hence "communism". Stripped of the emotive gloss, there is a reality they avoid, either through indifference or ignorance. 

The United States — like every other country with an advanced economy is already a partly socialist country, with a mixed economy and many government programs that deal with the public good. Social Security, Medicare, the minimum wage, child labor laws, agricultural and energy subsidies, Pell grants to name a few.

Socialism is not communism, don't let them work you into a frenzy

Socialism is communism, fascism, or any thing that is not a Democratic Republic, a snit over what it is called does not mean it is not destroying  this country and making the DNC millionaires richer.

The end of the Roman Decratoc Republic by one power rule destroyed it; the U.S. is heading that way.
I have worked with a number of foreign gents who fled socialist/communist countries and they wonder why we are letting our country become what they fled from.

[gypsyman]

If Bernie Sanders was a true Socialist, why isn't he sharing the wealth with who he claims he's trying to help? Why isn't he hauling illegals to his house's to show true Socialism? Sharing his medical benefits? Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein ?? Trump wasn't trying to control the media, but some in government certainly were- And that is Communism!! When Trump gave financial to business's and farmers, he didn't want to take over what they owned. That would be Communism, he was giving back money that those people had already paid into the system, in the form of tax's. The lines do get blurred, but our capitalistic system was set up for the individual to make it on their own ability to succeed or fail, without government intervention.

[Lloyd Smale]

that is the typical liberal view. A few things are wrong in this country (no doubt do to leadership on the left) so we might as well bend over and let them take control without risking a broken fingernail. Question for you tr. You seem pretty much a big fan of the left and the way our country is going so in fact id bet you love this country. Were you willing to fight for it? To give up your life for it? Or just sit in the background stirring up crap while the real men did the dirty work!! Socialism is what communist dictators set loose on a country to weaken the resolve of the people and thus allowing them to take total control. So in fact they are the same and everyone here knows at least one. Im quoting his post.

Some label any progressive legislation offered as "socialism" and hence "communism". Stripped of the emotive gloss, there is a reality they avoid, either through indifference or ignorance. 

The United States — like every other country with an advanced economy is already a partly socialist country, with a mixed economy and many government programs that deal with the public good. Social Security, Medicare, the minimum wage, child labor laws, agricultural and energy subsidies, Pell grants to name a few.

Socialism is not communism, don't let them work you into a frenzy

[ironglow]

Some label any progressive legislation offered as "socialism" and hence "communism". Stripped of the emotive gloss, there is a reality they avoid, either through indifference or ignorance. 

The United States — like every other country with an advanced economy is already a partly socialist country, with a mixed economy and many government programs that deal with the public good. Social Security, Medicare, the minimum wage, child labor laws, agricultural and energy subsidies, Pell grants to name a few.

Socialism is not communism, don't let them work you into a frenzy

   Again, thanks for the reply.  Yes, the government does some things which cannot be done by the individual states, simply because of the way the individual states are set up.  Things like the Military, international relations, tariffs, revenues..a few basic things. That is the way it was intended by our founding fathers, and placed in our constitution.

   Anything added, is just the politicians taking liberties with our constitution.

     Now; let's get back to my questions posed yesterday; then I will be pleased to host your constitutional questions.
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      Do you think this destruction of individual rights is, good, wise and freedom preserving?

  1) Freedom of Speech..you can't say this word, you must use certain pronouns, you can't say wordsthat offend me.  We will cancel your speech..to aid "cancel culture effort.

 2) Freedom of religion..From a culture in which Christianity while being tolerant of other faiths, was a part of everyday happenings, has been told it must stay within certain buildings, preparatory to be being extinguished completely.

 3) Right to keep and bear arms..President Biden recently PROMISED that he was going to get every last "assault rifle" out of private hands Nearly every democrat politician agrees with him.

 4) Freedom of the person.. The Biden admin has either applied or tried to apply, restrictions on the American people such as had never been seen before. Many are contra-constitution
 
 Wherever Communism takes over, life is severely regimented by government slavery and mass deaths follow..

    Do you think this destruction of individual rights is, good, wise, and freedom preserving
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  I must take issue with your statement that Socialism is not Communism.  Too many "experts in the field" have claimed otherwise.
  So, please post your answers, then tell me how conservative endanger our constitution..