anyone here get fox nation tv

[Lloyd Smale]

theres a show on there that is a must see. Its about people that have survived abortion attempts and were born cripled ect and it talks about how abortions are done and describes doctors laughing about it as they do it and sticking still breathing fetus in a bucket and putting them in a locker so they wouldnt have to hear them cry while there undeveloped lungs eventually collapse and even some taking a scalpel and cutting the back of there necks to finish them. If you dont have it i think they have a free trial you can get. Get it and watch this show. I will even make a hard core anti abortionist about sick. It called "NOT THERE CHOICE" abortion survivors. How can these doctors take a living baby out of the womb and kill it and not call it murder?? One nurse on there was in on one of those deals and grabbed the baby and saved its life. She was fired. It should be shown in every school and every church in this country.

[ironglow]

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A professor in a college ethics class presented to his students with a problem.  He said, "A man has syphilis and his wife tuberculosis.  They have had four children:  one has died, the other three have what is considered to be a terminal illness.  The mother is pregnant.  What do you recommend?"  After spirited discussion, the majority of the class voted that she abort the child.

"Fine," said the professor, "You've just killed Beethoven!"

[Bob Riebe]

A professor in a college ethics class presented to his students with a problem.  He said, "A man has syphilis and his wife tuberculosis.  They have had four children:  one has died, the other three have what is considered to be a terminal illness.  The mother is pregnant.  What do you recommend?"  After spirited discussion, the majority of the class voted that she abort the child.

"Fine," said the professor, "You've just killed Beethoven!"

That is an act of God, not man, the person that was Beethoven would have been born no matter what.

That analogy falls flat as pro abortion people could say , yes but it could have eliminated Hitler and Stalin.

[ironglow]

A professor in a college ethics class presented to his students with a problem.  He said, "A man has syphilis and his wife tuberculosis.  They have had four children:  one has died, the other three have what is considered to be a terminal illness.  The mother is pregnant.  What do you recommend?"  After spirited discussion, the majority of the class voted that she abort the child.

"Fine," said the professor, "You've just killed Beethoven!"

That is an act of God, not man, the person that was Beethoven would have been born no matter what.

That analogy falls flat as pro abortion people could say , yes but it could have eliminated Hitler and Stalin.

  They couid say it, but that doesn't settle it!  No doubt, abortion is still a sin against God..

 All doctors supposedly take the "Hippocratic oath"...after the ancient Greek intro, reads as follows;
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I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[6] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.

Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me.[5] – Translation by W.H.S. Jones.

   

[Lloyd Smale]

I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[6] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.

Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me.[5] – Translation by W.H.S. Jones.

as obsolete as the constitution to the left