Nikon Monarch 2X7 vs. Bushnell 4200 1.5X6

[BruceP]

I think I have narrowed the choice for a scope for my new 35 Whelen AI down to these two scopes. Has anyone had a chance to compair these two directly. I am most interested in how they compair in brightness and clairity and also in the eye relief of the two. I hope my rifle will be finished in the next few weeks. I found out today that the gunsmith is almost finished with one that he picked up on the same day as mine.
BruceP

[TheOpticZone]

I really hate to say this, but I think the Bushnell Elite 1.5-6x36 is going to be ever so slightly brighter than the Nikon Monarch 2-7x32.  But the edge goes to the Nikon on eye relief.   Nikon 3.9-3.6, Bushnell 3.3.

[Dave in WV]

Jon, isn't the Nikon 2x7 on the short side, almost a compact? If so, on a long action it could be a problem couldn't it? Just wondering. Dave

[Robert]

We are both doing the scope research, and you will definately want the right scope.  I opened up my forehead with a cheap scope and 250 gr bullets and they were just medium loads.

[TheOpticZone]

Dave,

The is very true.  The Nikon measures in at 11.1", where the Bushnell is 12.8".

[big6x6]

"Jon, isn't the Nikon 2x7 on the short side, almost a compact? If so, on a long action it could be a problem couldn't it? Just wondering."

I tend to think the converse is true.  I think, at 12.8 inches, the Elite 4200 1.5-6 needs to go on a DIET.  When you consider my Vari-X III 2.5-8 is 11.25 inches, my Burris Signature 1.5-6 is 10.6 inches, my Kahles 1.5-6X42 30mm is 11.8 inches, and my Docter 1.5-6X42 30mm is only 12.4 inches, it's obvious to me the 1.5-6 4200 is too LONG.  The length of Bushnells 4200s scopes have kept me from buying them at times.  Also, if you have quick-detach mounts and enjoy the option of using your iron sights, shorter scopes are an asset.

If it were we, I'd stick a Leupold Vari-X III/VX-III 1.75-6 or 2.5-8.  I have a Vari-X III 2.5-8 on my tang-safety Ruger 77 35 Whelen.

[Dave in WV]

Chuck, I also have a Burris 1.5x6 and IMHO the scope needs 1" more length in front of the turret for a long action. I had mine on a M70 long action and it's on my short action M77 now which is much better.

[Graybeard]

I have no experience with the Nikon but do with the Bushnell Elite 4200 1.5-6. That is one NICE scope. Got it for the wife's rifle for use on a night time hog hunt in TX that was to take place on moonless nights. Worked great. My plans were to put it on my R700 LSS Mtn. Rifle in 7-08 when we returned. Wife seems to think tho for some reason that scope is now hers so instead I have the Elite 3200 2-7 on mine.  :eek:

It is true that in general Bushnell scopes are physically a bit larger and heavier than the Leupold scopes. I really do like the size of Leupold scopes but I also prefer the quality and clarity of the Bushnells. Our guns wear both but these days more Bushnells than Leupolds. Leupold also has a bit more eye relief across the board. These are the compromises each manufacturer must make to get what each considers the most desirable features into theirs. You just have to decide which features mean the most to you.

For sure you'll not be unhappy with that Elite 4200 1.5-6.

GB

[Robert]

I am seriously interested in the model #42-2146-M Bushnell 2.5-10 w/ rainguard and 'Firefly' reticle.  Can anyone direct me to where I can get the best deal on this scope with matte finish?  Either private message me or E-mail at farlandhr@earthlink.net

HOLD ON, I MIGHT BE CONFUSED.  Are these the same thing...this is the one I am interested in...with firefly.

Bar none, it-s the brightest scope in the world. Boasting 95% light transmission at 550nm, this is our top-of-the-line riflescope. Our exclusive, hydrophobic Rainguard® lens coating - which disperses condensation into microscopic specks, allowing you to literally see around the moisture - ensures you won-t miss that trophy buck because you breathed on your eyepiece or you couldn't wipe the rain away in time. All optical lens surfaces are fully multi-coated for the absolute maximum light transmission and the sharpest image. Fingertip, audible/resettable 1/4 M.O.A. adjustments make windage and elevation tuning quick and easy. The ultra-strong one-piece tube is hammer-forged from an aluminum and titanium alloy for 30% more strength than standard aluminum scopes -and to be sure it lasts, it is recoil-tested to 10,000 rounds of a .375 H&H Magnum! Finally, our Elite® 4200 scopes offer some of the largest magnification ranges in the industry for optimum versatility in the most challenging hunting situations. In the world of big game pursuit, there are hunters - and there are serious hunters. If you consider yourself the latter, the Elite® 4200 is the scope that does justice to your commitment.

[big6x6]

"I also have a Burris 1.5x6 and IMHO the scope needs 1" more length in front of the turret for a long action."

I don't doubt it.  It also needs the w/e adjustment moved to the rear where they SHOULD be.

[brushbustertex]

don't get so close to the scope.and hold the gun thighter.

[RandyWakeman]

I am most interested in how they compair in brightness and clairity and also in the eye relief of the two. I hope my rifle will be finished in the next few weeks.

Yes, I've used them both. The Bushnell Elite 1.5 x 6 is better optically, has a stronger tube-- and is one of the finest scopes I've owned. After my first 1.5 x 6---------- I bought a second, then tested 2.5 x 10 x 40, and a 6 x 24 x 40. They are fabulous scopes.

The Nikon 2 x 7 had sloppy adjustments, and while bright-- was one of the worst in the super/hyper critical eye placement scopes I've tried. Move your head slightly; instant blackout. Glad to see it go!

Let your eyes be the judge, of course-- but I think the 1.5 x 6 Elite 4200 is a fabulous hunting scope.

[Brasso]

How well does the Elite 4200 1.5-6x36 do in low light compared to a 40mm objective?    Also, is it quick to site in on something?    I'm not sure of the correct terminology for that last question.    I think the correct term is exit pupil?     Anyway, I think you know what I mean.  I hope.  

Thaks.