Author Topic: bear slugs (Read 1102 times)

69beers · « **on:** February 17, 2004, 04:20:31 AM »

I'm going black bear hunting this spring with my beloved slug gun. I have narrowed my choice of slugs to two very different slugs that have great accuracy out of my barrell. I'm looking to either use the Lightfield Hybred EXP or the Winchester Partition Gold. The Lightfield is an all-lead design, 1 1/8 oz, 1454 ft sec, and really drops off after 100 yards. The Winchester is a copper-jacketed partition design, 7/8 oz, 1900 ft sec, and is accurate out to 200 yards. The lightfield is designed to NOT punch through both sides of a deer, even at close range, but for the deer to fully absorb the energy. The Winchester was not even slowed down by my deer at 30 yards this year. Should I use the slug with the best penetration and weight retention or the one that will knock it down like a truck hit it? The all lead worries me on a shoulder bone hit. Thanks.

MarkJ_Thompson · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2004, 06:39:22 AM »

Try Brenneke...I am a fan and you may soon be.

69beers · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:47:49 AM »

I have killed many a deer with Brenneke! I've used them out of my smooth bore slug gun with great results. Actually, the most accurate slug out of that gun by far. The SuperSabots shoot pretty good (my third choice) out of my rifled slug gun, which I will be using on this hunt, but I haven't heard any results on big game yet. Also, they are all brass and aluminum instead of lead and copper. Do you think these would be a good choice, or possibly better, than the Lightfields or Partition Golds?

OTTOMATIC · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2004, 09:34:03 AM »

I would go with the Lightfield. Most of my shots at everything have been under 100 yrds. I like the idea ofALL energy being expended inside an animal. (Now I'm wondering why I bought a 30-378?)...OTTO

Lawdog · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2004, 04:57:19 PM »

69beers,

There is ONLY ONE type of slug to use an potentially dangerous game. Brenneke, period. What works on lightly muscled, lightly boned deer doesn't always work on heavily muscled, heavily boned bear. Remember that bears can and do bite back if they have to. Lawdog

DirtyHarry · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:37:16 PM »

I read(the publication escapes me) that the Brenneke Black Magic Magnum was the way to go on large dangerous animals when using a slug gun

MarkJ_Thompson · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2004, 08:55:22 PM »

Yeah, it is one of their newer slugs...BAD(as in good) on bears worse(as in bad) on shoulders.

1-3/8oz of oh my bruised shoulder
with 3000+ ft/lbs of nowhere to hide energy
at 1500+ fps don't try to run velocity.

statistics at the muzzle...side effects may include servere nosebleeds, intestinal upset, headaches, and lack of breathing when on hte receiving end of a Brenneke Black Magic Magnum.

MJT

69beers · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2004, 03:31:42 AM »

I agree that the muzzle energy cannot be matched, but the data at 100 yards is not that impressive and I hve no idea what it would be past that. I really don't plan on shooting a bear at point blank range, and hope I never have to! Here are the numbers at 100 yards:

Brenneke Black Magic Magnum -- 955 ft sec / 1219 ft lbs
Brenneke SuperSabot -- 1017 ft sec / 1127 ft lbs
Lightfield Hybred EXP -- 1066 ft sec / 1378 ft lbs (1.5" group)
Winchester Partition Gold -- 1615 ft sec / 1774 ft lbs (2.5" group)

What would make Brenneke a better hunting slug at a reasonable hunting range since I won't be doing this over bait? I definately see the advantage of self defense usage....and hope I'm never on the receiving end of one of these!

Daveinthebush · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2004, 01:04:54 PM »

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What would make Brenneke a better hunting slug at a reasonable hunting range since I won't be doing this over bait?

The quality of the slug and its ability to penetrate the animal through bone and tough tissue.

Take a Brenneke and a Foster and try to scratch both. The Foster is made from almost pure lead and is easily deformed. The Brenneke on the other hand is hardened and much tougher. I had a Foster form Remington for a number of years that was loaded sideways into the case. If you can load a slug sideways into a case it really isn't gonna penetrate a bear.