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British union puts damper on school trips
« on: March 05, 2004, 03:54:41 PM »
Union tells teachers to end all school trips
By John Clare, Education Editor
(Filed: 19/02/2004)


The second biggest teaching union advised its 223,000 members yesterday to stop taking children on school trips because "society no longer appears to accept the concept of a genuine accident".

 
 
The NASUWT, which said the ban applied to "any excursion outside the perimeter of the school", has seen three of its members blamed for causing pupils' deaths.

One, Paul Ellis, is serving a 12-month sentence after pleading guilty to the manslaughter of a 10-year-old boy who drowned on a school trip to the Lake District. Two others were criticised after two teenage girls on a trip they were supervising in the Yorkshire Dales drowned in a beck.

"It is highly regrettable that we have been forced to advise members against taking school trips but our first responsibility must be to protect their interests," said Eamonn O'Kane, the general secretary.

"When something goes wrong, the leader bears a legal responsibility so the finger of blame will almost certainly point at the teachers."

An accident was no longer treated as an accident, he said. Instead, it led to lengthy inquiries by the police, the local education authority and the Health and Safety Executive, the suspension of the teachers involved and extensive publicity.

Because of growing allegations of abuse, the union has also advised members not to give children a lift in their own vehicles, not to place themselves in a "one-to-one situation" with a child and not to drive a minibus on an educational visit.

The NUT, the biggest teaching union, said it "would not dream" of giving such advice. "School trips are such an integral part of children's education," said an official. "They help develop school spirit and promote good relationships between pupils, teachers and the community.

"It would be a sad day if they ever stopped because teachers refused to lead them."
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2004, 07:24:41 PM »
Perhaps the liberals should ban teachers?
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2004, 04:58:59 AM »
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Perhaps the liberals should ban teachers?
Dali Llama say that beg question of what replace teachers then - homeschooling? :?
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2004, 10:48:56 AM »
The most sensible solution would be to ban stupid lawsuits...............
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2004, 05:03:42 AM »
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The most sensible solution would be to ban stupid lawsuits...............
Dali Llama say that unfortunately that appear quite unlikely in today's litigious society. :(  :(  :(
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2004, 06:14:08 PM »
Homeschooling?  Well perhaps, but I think vouchers would be a move in the right direction for now.  If your teachers truly suck, and you pay big time property taxes to fund education, then your money should be used to send your kids where the teachers don't suck.  It's the American way, or it should be I think.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2004, 01:24:09 AM »
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I think vouchers would be a move in the right direction for now.  If your teachers truly suck, and you pay big time property taxes to fund education, then your money should be used to send your kids where the teachers don't suck.  It's the American way, or it should be I think.
Dali Llama say he wonder how many residents of affluent suburban enclaves with excellent educational systems yearn for vouchers to permit inner city thugs to enter those systems... :eek:  :shock:
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2004, 03:01:51 AM »
Entrance into many private schools is not given just because someone has the money. The process usually includes interviews and a review of the student as well.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2004, 03:03:52 AM »
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Entrance into many private schools is not given just because someone has the money. The process usually includes interviews and a review of the student as well.
Dali Llama say that as student of public schools, he do not know practices of elite of society. :D
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2004, 03:21:23 AM »
Hmmmmm.........I'd think that someone with the wisdom of the Dali Llama would receive numerous grants and scholarships based on academic achievement?
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2004, 08:26:27 AM »
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Hmmmmm.........I'd think that someone with the wisdom of the Dali Llama would receive numerous grants and scholarships based on academic achievement?
Dali Llama say he do, but they be to public schools, not elitist institutions. :P  :P  :P
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2004, 02:06:39 AM »
Dali;
   Though I am no fan of many of the big, extortive unions....this is truly a case of the TRIAL LAWYERS knocking out field trips..agreed?
 
   School choice..through vouchers...COMPETITION improves all products!
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