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Offline Woodward

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340 or 350gr LFNGC's for my 444
« on: March 17, 2004, 08:19:43 PM »
I'm looking for a source to supply 340 or 350gr LFNGC's for my 444.  I understand that Balisticast has a 340 mold but I'm not interested in casting my own just yet.  

It sound like Beartooth is backlogged, although I'm waiting for a reply on their 355gr.  Any suggestions?

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Paul

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340 or 350gr LFNGC's for my 444
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2004, 02:02:02 AM »
You might want to measure the twist rate in your barrel first if you have a Marlin. Most of those 444's used a 1:38 twist that won't stabilize a bullet that heavy. They're really designed around the 265gr.
"Give me a lever long enough, and a place to stand, and I'll break the lever."

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340 or 350s for the 444
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2004, 06:22:00 AM »
Woodward:  If Beartooth is backlogged, Cabellas may have various weights of the gas-checked LBT bullets.  I purchased some 300 grainers for my 444s and they shoot just fine.  Just make certain you load them to lever action length - which means you may need a Lyman taper crimp die (inexpensive) to seat them to the proper length but not have to worry about using a crimp groove.  

Also, the 1:38 twist will shoot gas checked heavy weight bullets just fine.  If you log into the Beartooth site and review their literature on the use of the heavy weight bullets you will see that one of their test rifles carried the 1:38 twist and was very accurate with some loads.  

Beartooth, as well as Veral Smith, both of who produce the LBT type gas checked bullets for the 44 magnum/444, advocate fire-lapping the barrel for maximum accuracy.  The Beartooth information on the results of fire-lapping a 1:38 twist  for the 444 makes me very, very happy.  I have 3 444s, one with a 26" 6 groove 1:26 twist Montana Rifleman barrel, a Timber Carbine with an 18" 1:12 twist twelve groove bbl and a stock 94AE rifle with the micro-groove 1:38 twist.  The last two will get fire-lapped as soon as it's warm enough to get back out to the range.  

I don't shy away from using the heavies at all in my 444s - for whatever rifle/bbl/twist you are going to shoot, consider lapping the barrel, and then finding the bullet/powder charge that gives you the greatest accuracy - dang man, that's more than half the fun.  HTH.  Mikey.

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340 or 350gr LFNGC's for my 444
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2004, 08:28:16 PM »
I am shooting a new Marlin, 1:20" twist.  320gr bullets are very common locally, and I have a good supply 300gr GC's that I shoot in my 44 mag.

But I have a special purpose in mind that requires higher than the normal sectional densities needed for deer sized game.  That's why I'm trying to find a supply of 340 to 350gr slugs.

I've heard a lot about fire lapping and will probably go that route after I develop a heavy load for it depending on how it groups.

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Paul

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2004, 04:47:05 AM »
Woodward-

Beartooth Bullets two heaviest .44/.444 bullets weigh in at  335 grains and 405 grains.  The 335 grain has an excellant reputation on game such as Moose and Elk.

Also, last I checked Beartooth had their backlog down to six weeks.

Hope this helps, :-)
-Matt