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Attachments rule in hunter -- change it?
« on: March 19, 2004, 03:42:08 AM »
Since I told chunter that anyone wanting to change things ought to put his ideas out on the berm and let folks see if they can shoot holes in them, I guess that I ought to take my own medicine!

IMO, the attachments rule in hunter needs clarification.

As Al from PA pointed out, even match directors don't know how far to take it.

Greg has told me repeatedly that the intention of the rule was to prohibit stabilizers, external weights, gyroscopes, Vulcan anti-gravity devices and so forth. Unfortunately, it can be taken to mean much more if you get too literal in interpretation.

When we question a cheekpad I think we're going onto soft ground. (As Al said, he likes his, many others do also and the guys up in Alaska tell me -- the WUSSIES! -- that they 'need' something between their tender cheeks and that cold plastic in the winter time...as if they understood winter!)
Same for grip mods. Here in TX, in the summer, it's nice to have a rough grip surface to keep your sweaty hands from sliding off the rifle!

Right now, we could have -- if the rule is overly strictly interpreted by the MD -- two dimensionally (and otherwise) identical rifles on the line and one will be perfectly accepted (because it was built that way from inception) while the other (modified with a cheekpad or something on the grip) is questioned. That IMO doesn't make sense. (It FAILS the common sense test! BIG TIME!)

I'm thinking that something like this should be appended to 3.1.1 (c):

"Attachments" means any external weight, stabilizer or other device that is not normally found on a hunting rifle stock. Material added to the grip, comb or cheekpiece shall not be deemed an "attachment" and prohibited unless that addition causes the rifle to fail the "hunting style stock" requirement of this rule.

Comments will be gracefully (well, only if they're positive and agree completely with my thinking! :-D ) received.

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Everyone else please chime in!
E Kuney

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Attachments rule in hunter -- change it?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2004, 11:52:38 AM »
Nomad, Very well stated. Why can't the rule book be that simple to understand? I would like to go on record as one who likes the current hunter rules. If it looks like a hunter rifle it is a hunter rifle. It is a lot easier for us Ignorant match directors. I also like the fact that a shooter can tweek his rifle a little to suit his or her preferences. Not everyone is built the same and being able to change stocks so the gun actually fits you is a big plus. I can't believe how many shooters struggle along year after year with equiptment that is not suited to their physical makeup.
I do however as a match director tend to over state the rules from time to time. And my main reason is I wouldn't want to see some one go to the Nationals with questionable equiptment and embarass themselves. However as lax as the gun certifications have been the last few years, I doubt there is much to worry about there.
Are you going to be on the line to harass us at Raton this year?
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Attachments rule in hunter -- change it?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2004, 02:55:06 PM »
Al,

Actually, if I can convince myself that nobody will be watching -- and laughing -- I'm thinking about actually shooting HP this year. (That way, I'll have fewer people mad at me!) :)

I did talk with the editor from Shooting Sports and, depending on scheduling, I may cover SB and HP for the magazine again.

Thanks for the compliment on the proposal.
E Kuney

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Vulcan anti-gravity device
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2004, 03:42:51 PM »
Yeah, what Nomad said, that's what I need!   :grin:
I've got an extra Romulan transmuting stabilizer.
Willing to trade!

Go ahead and laugh.
Nothing else works.

Except maybe dry fire and practice.   :?
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