offhand35, I have had luck with the 490 gr slug 32 g (powder?). They are 2 3/4 " "Mags" and cost about $6-7 for five( number on the box end flap is 2115409 on one end, and 12/70, 32G, 1 1/8 oz on the other end). I would really like to find a 1 oz slug which shoots well in my Tracker II. Other 12 Gauge 2 3/4" Brenneke slugs to consider and perhaps even better are the "KO Sabot" about $7 per box/5, Brenneke HeavyField at about $5 per box/5 and lastly "KO Slugs" at about $3 per box of 5, but perhaps better in a smoothbore. Each gun is different and each shooters needs are different but the Brenneke's work for me...and are cheaper than some other Sabots which can go $12-$15 a box. Brenneke also has some of those expensive sabot slugs to sell you if you want to spend that much! :shock: ....<><.... :grin: If you can find the "KO Sabot" by Brenneke try them and let know, I can't find them around here and they sound promising and about middle of the road price wise....<><.... :grin: