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« on: March 12, 2004, 03:56:23 AM »
I was watching Von Ryans Express yesterday and noticed the Germans with their 9MM machine guns were wearing 8MM ammo pouches on thier belts.  They should of had on the long magazine pouches for the machine gun or machine pistol as it was called too.             BigBill

All these guys with machine guns had 8mm ammo pouches and that was every guy non of them had it right.

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2004, 07:39:55 AM »
bigbill, you've discovered one of my favourite ways to destroy a movie. my personal fav's are the german soldiers armed with No.4 enfields in "The Blue Max" and in the awful "Shanghai Knights" a palace guard in 1892 standing guard with a No.4. there was one movie i saw that some one had pistol that looked a lot like a P38 and claimed it was a colt .45 automatic
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2004, 01:00:56 PM »
a real annoyance to a perfectionist !!!
I can't stand when they show the spent cases falling
on the ground and they are crimped nose blank shells!
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2004, 02:12:16 PM »
I can't stand it when lead bullets send out a shower of sparks when hitting car bodies! :roll:
I can't stand it when a 9 mm shot makes a car blow up like it was hit with a 40mm HE round! :roll:
ad nauseam :wink:

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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2004, 04:23:48 AM »
I agree with Shorty when lead bullets hit cement, trees or wooden buildings and send out a shower of sparks......huh?

When westerns show drawing from the hip and hitting anything at forty (40) yards......huh?  I shoot Cowboy Action and I can tell you, it just don't happen that way!

When someone is shooting a .50 cal. machine-guns from the waist, while holding the banderlo-belt in the other hand.....huh?  Imagine the beating your body would take......

Cops are raiding a house, pounding down the door, rushing in, yelling and two (2) of the guys are doing so with SCOPED HIGH-POWERED RIFLES......huh?  Just how were they planning to take a shot.....?

Just alittle bit of research would go along way to more believability.  Probably one of the best commendations for Kevin Costner in "Open Range" is that he got the gunfight scene right (although a number of us weren't too happy with "fanning" the 9 shooter!).......
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2004, 08:56:29 AM »
i noticed the 9 shots with out reloading in open range.i watched the scene where the bad guy gets both barrels in the back at least 10 times. i'm not an experianced handgun shooter so i don't know, but i don't think it's possiable to empty a 1911 one handed with out any recoil or jump.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2004, 01:05:03 PM »
I'm sure I remember seeing a left handed MN on a poster for Enemy at the Gate. That would be a rare gun I'm sure. But i did enjoy the movie. LouisV

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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2004, 04:43:12 AM »
The wierdest mistake I've seen was while watching a John Wayne (western) movie.
There was a wagon train going across the prairie and in the distance, over the mountains was a jet plane going across the sky!
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2004, 07:02:04 AM »
In the movie Tombstone with Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer (one of my favorite movies, incidentally), has anyone ever been able to count the number of rounds fired by Doc Holiday in the gunfight at the O.K. Corral?  It would seem that he fired 3 shots from that double barrel 10 ga, and I have yet to be able to count the number of shots that his two six shooters loosed.

I still love that movie.   :grin:
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2004, 09:33:34 AM »
Guys, doesn't anyone remember Andy Devine getting 14 shots out of those two six-guns he carried????  Mikey.

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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2004, 09:26:23 AM »
Speaking of movie mistakes:

In the Bogart movie, Sahara, the Krauts seem to be shooting '03 Spingfields. That cocking piece really stands out.

In the final gunfight of The Sons of Katie Elder, the Duke gets off about 13 shots from a single Colt without reloading.

In Unforgiven, a posse is heading out and someone says he's got to go to the store to get some .30-30s - quite a few years before they came out.

Of course, there are the "recoilless" rifles and pistols appearing on screen. One of my favorites is Charles Bronson firing slugs out of a short barrelled 12 gauge in The Mechanic with nary a trace of back thump. If you've fired a slug through a pump gun with a barrel like that, and I have, you'll appreciate how funny it is.

In Sergeant York, Gary Cooper carries a Springfield, when the real Alvin York carried a P17 Enfield, and the famous scene in which he's mowing down Germans with a Luger is wrong too. The real York used a .45. I will admit there was justification for the latter as it is apparently not possible to operate a 1911 with blanks. And, by the way, York was not yet a sergeant when the action took place; he was still a corporal. The promotion to sergeant came later.

Speaking of Open Range, I just love the huge hole Boss Spearman blasts through that wall with his shotgun, with no perceivable recoil, and how far back the guys he blasts with that scatter gun get thrown by the impact. I remember an even more absurd "hole in the wall by shotgun blast" in a James Bond movie, but I forget which one now, except that it starred Roger Moore. Bond and the girl who fired the shot (yeah - without recoil) are able to run through the hole and escape the bad guys.

And, I can't count the number of times I've seen Colt Single Action Armys in movies set years before 1873 - even during the Civil War.

I also remember a Robert Ludlum book sequence in which a character fires eight rapid shots from a .357 magnum revolver. Having read a number of Ludlum yarns, I can testify that the man doesn't know diddley squat about guns.

Finding gun goofs in movies and books is a kinda fun pastime.
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« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2004, 02:04:51 AM »
Here's another one that burns my butt on lone wolf  McCade the blower on the motor???  It shows the motor running without the blower turning? Then it comes on??  There's a commerical with a car that is the same way too the car is moving then the blower belt starts turning.  These motors are fed by the blower turning and there is no way the engine can get fuel unless it turns so it can't be running??                  BigBill

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« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2004, 07:11:43 AM »
thats that car wash commercial with a beautiful charger that had a hole hacked thru the hood an that god awful blower sticking thru.

 heres a gun goof. in the good the bad and the ugly. tuco makes a revolver by using the cylinder, barrel and frame from 3 different pistols. i haven't watched it in a while but i know they wheren't all the same make. i don't think thats possible.

 in an old episode of JAG Lt. rabb is shooting at someone with a marlin .30-30 at 300 yards and there appears to be no bullet drop.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2004, 06:07:52 AM »
In Saving Private Ryan, The machine gun belts the corporal is carrying up the stairs have no primers.  And the left handed sniper is carrying his rifle right handed in the field.
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« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2004, 07:11:50 AM »
Quote from: crow-feather
In Saving Private Ryan, The machine gun belts the corporal is carrying up the stairs have no primers.  And the left handed sniper is carrying his rifle right handed in the field.


Did you notice how many times he fired that Springbfield from the bell tower without reloading? Shuckins, I lost count.  :-D  :-D

In the TV show, Threat Matrix, they did an episode about a teenaged sniper. After just two years of high school ROTC, this kid is making 1450 yard kill shots. I love the part where one of the team is able to determine that he "stuffs" his own cartridges based on the distance of the shot, and during the rest of the episode there is not one single sign of any handloading on the kid's part. It gets better. The kid stole the sniper rifle from off the gun rack of a store while the owner was in the back room, and there's apparently no video tape security system to identify the thief. Here's a gun store owner who leaves his stock unwatched while he ambles into his back room? By the way, the teen is identified from a video in a convenience store where he acquired a whole lot of nickles, one of which he leaves at the scene of each of his kills. These crime busters ever hear of fingerprints? And, it gets still better. The gun store guy claims he has it set for a very low trigger "pressure" and that he got 6-inch groups with it "all day" at 1400 yards.

I just love it when the "entertainment" media try to deal with ballistic forensics. They just haven't a clue.
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« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2004, 09:45:27 AM »
in jeremiah johnson i was pleasantly surprised to see that his hawken did recoil except where he shot the elk. no recoil there. also shooting from the hip one handed i don't think anyone could hold onto it.



 a buddy and i where out at his grandparents frm one weekend shooting rodents and his 15 year old brother was along. he wanted to try a double barreled shotgun just like in the movies.  so we go into the house and come out with his grandfatheras fausti over under. i slip a pair of 3" magnum loads in and tell him to "have at 'er" he tucks it up under his armpits and, well you boys are smart enough to figur out the rest... :grin:
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« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2004, 04:28:24 PM »
Another thing about Jeremiah Johnson, in the beginning, during the opening narration, he says that he wanted a .50 caliber Hawken but had to settle for a .30. There warn't no sech animal as a .30 caliber Hawken. Them theah fellers never made them no squirrl guns nohow, Ah reckon.

Then Jeremiah finds a .50 Hawken in the hands of a frozen corpse in the snow. It ought to be a rusted mess, but it's in pristine condition.
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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2004, 06:39:31 PM »
I guess the ones I notice most are all the M1 Carbines in the old WWII B&W flicks. The Garand would have been seen the most.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2004, 07:53:57 AM »
The movie Sasquatch that I watched last night. (Made the 3rd time watching it) The guy is shooting a RH Remington M700 DM then in the next scene it is left hand and then in the next scene it transforms back to a right handed gun. I love catching mistakes in movies.


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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2004, 02:24:50 PM »
If ya,ll want to see a really good list of movie mistakes go to www.nitpickers.com really amazed at some of the things they don't pay attention to when they make films for instance [ I know its not firearms] but in the film Black Dog when the bad guy is on the back of the tractor and unhooking the air lines the wheels keep turning, wrong when you undo trailer lines or even if one has a leak and it drops below a certian psi it sets the emergency brakes insteadly just my 2c worth