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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2023, 05:05:51 PM »
In 1966 when I hired into Anniston Army Depot we were still repairing and returning to service the M42, M48, M60 and the Sheridan and I don't recall the model number on that last one. They were being phased out and about done. The old M42 was the first I worked on.


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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2023, 05:33:05 PM »
  Ity is truly interesting, the longevity of certain models of tanks.  No longer of course, as MBTs (main battle tanks), but in various other
   tasks....stationary artillery, recon, or between poorer nations when that is the best they can afford.

  The Stuart was used extensively by the British in North Africa, but with it's light armor and mounting only a 37mm gun, it was not used tank-to-tank, but it was quick and the British crews who used them, nicknamed them the "Honey"..

  The Stuart seems to be referred to as either an M3 or an M5...not to be confused with the M3 Lee. 

   The Lee, when passed to the British..was called the Grant..  Lee/Grant..Oh the irony..  They were a stop-gap m achine hurriedly built for the North
   African coimmand.  THeir "big gun" a 75mm, was offset to the right, which limited it's traverse, so if a target was more than 30 degrees or so off to one side or the other, one would have to turn the whole tank, in order to bring the gun to bear.
 
  The T34 was an excellent tank..among the best produced for WW2. 

   THe M4 Sherman had some serious flaws, but 2 things it had over most of the competition, was reliability and a powereded turret rotation.
  Even the others which had powered turrets, most were not   so fast at rotation.
    In tank-to-tank, whoever gets innthe first shot (hit), is almost always to get in the second shot..raising the odds.
   
  The M4 and the British Centurion were used in the 1967 Arab/Israeliu war.... The centurion had "reach" with it's main gun tube..

     The M47 & M48 Pattons were "my" tanks .  We crew members figured we could compete against the world's best at the time.

  Some of the post WW2 Russian tanks had cast turrets..an HVAP round would not just punch a hole, but the cast would shatter, sending shrapnel bouncing around the interior.

  THe Leopard is still competitive today.

  See Lee/grant below.  (Those rivited armor plates were killers).
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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2023, 12:54:38 AM »
Tanks have always amazed me...from comic books (The Haunted Tank) to detailed accounts of modern battles on YouTube (73 Easting in Iraq).They just keep on getting better.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2023, 03:06:46 AM »
Tanks have always amazed me...from comic books (The Haunted Tank) to detailed accounts of modern battles on YouTube (73 Easting in Iraq).They just keep on getting better.
 
  The death of tanks as useful weapons, has been predicted almost since their introduction on the battlefield in 1916.  ..But somehow they have
   survived..

  Seems to be the old, "better weapon, produces a better defense, produces an improved weapon"..phenomenon..
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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2023, 04:26:51 PM »
What I can see happening in the not too distant future is crewless tanks.....tanks as drones. just like flying pilotless aircraft, a driver would not have to be in the machine.

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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2023, 05:38:50 PM »
What I can see happening in the not too distant future is crewless tanks.....tanks as drones. just like flying pilotless aircraft, a driver would not have to be in the machine.

That is already reality.


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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2023, 01:21:08 AM »
  Without a crew, a tank can have a much lower silhouette.  It could have extra, rotating armor..that is extra armor that can be shifted to face the
     enemy, and many other totally revolutionary designs.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2023, 06:15:56 AM »
One wonders. Without a crew, there would be more room inside…for different types of munitions, a new design autoloader, and what else?

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Re: 10 Oldest Military Tanks Still in Service
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2023, 10:58:03 AM »
https://www.engineering.com/story/has-the-army-finally-realized-the-value-of-drone-tanks
   An interesting article there, Bill..  The new Russian T14 tank is supposed to be cut to a crew of 3, with none in the turret..but I hve some serious
  doubts about their claims as to that tank's proficency..

   The article mentioned the Hungarian uprising of 1956.  That was when I was in the 4th armored, and we were expecting bthat possibly we
  may be called...but the uprising was soon put down..
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