My Kingdom for a Mater Plant

[wtxbadger]

Well maybe not the whole shebang but I went to our local Ace hardware and no luck finding what I wanted other than a couple of sweet 100 plants. I was looking for early girl, celebrity, surefire and super fantastic and was told whoever their supplier is wasn't going to be shipping very many more tomato plants this year for whatever reason. I really don't want to go to wally world because they're teamed up bonham nursery and it seems like every time I buy from them I wind up with early blight and have to fight it all season long treating it with daconil and that doesn't seem to do much other than keep the plants alive.

While I was at Ace a lady told me about a nursery that's an hour away and supposed to be a good one. May just have to call them and see if they have what I'm looking for.

[Ranger99]

. . .  and was told whoever their supplier is wasn't going to be shipping very many more tomato plants this year for whatever reason. . . . .

Well don't feel too bad.
It's that way everywhere around here.
Anything people need to be less dependent
on the gubmint for is getting scarce.
Gardening stuff, canning and food
preservation stuff, etc.
We've all posted about it before. Some
scoffed, some nodded in agreement.
I got semi lucky and bought what seed
I could find, and have a good many
cherry tomato seedlings up.
Unfortunately, as you know, the weather
is less than optimum for germination
and delicate plant longevity right now.
I have tomatoes, greens, and some
volunteer onions up right now.
Peppers planted at the same time, just
hasn't been warm enough for enough
hours of the day yet. They're normally
late sprouting, so I'm not alarmed
yet
Good Luck with everything

[Bob Riebe]

Well maybe not the whole shebang but I went to our local Ace hardware and no luck finding what I wanted other than a couple of sweet 100 plants. I was looking for early girl, celebrity, surefire and super fantastic and was told whoever their supplier is wasn't going to be shipping very many more tomato plants this year for whatever reason. I really don't want to go to wally world because they're teamed up bonham nursery and it seems like every time I buy from them I wind up with early blight and have to fight it all season long treating it with daconil and that doesn't seem to do much other than keep the plants alive.

While I was at Ace a lady told me about a nursery that's an hour away and supposed to be a good one. May just have to call them and see if they have what I'm looking for.

I have used Serenade, Sonata, Actinovate and Oxidate for rose , tomato and other vegetable disease control with great success for years.
Actinovate and Oxidate are EXPENSIVE, but are the most efficient.
I rotate because the pathogens can get immune if they are hit with the same product over and over and over.

These actually kill the pathogens so if a disease is hit, they will stop it, and they do work well.
Daconil is not designed to kill, but to prevent; once it is there, Daconil does not work.

This site lists probably every Tomatoe (vegetable) bio-fungicide out there: https://www.vegetables.cornell.edu/pest-management/disease-factsheets/biopesticides/biopesticides-for-managing-diseases-of-tomatoes-organically/

Some are VERY expensive, to much for me nowadays, but I still always buy, the large size 2.5 gallon for most; while they cost 100 bucks , plus or minus.
 I store them in the basement, keep them cool and out of sunlight,  in winter, and figure 20 bucks for 16 oz.  bottles, which most small ones cost, added up is paying 240 bucks for 2.5 gallons.
Plus a jug lasts me for x years, depending on weather -- in wet weather you must reapply a lot more often , often times.
One year, I was careless, and had Corn Rust and Squash Blight  hit hard, I heavily treated them with Serenade and the Rust and Blight stopped spreading and the  yield was very good.

Cease which is EXACTLY the same Bacillus strain as Serenade cost, Twice as much, which is why I have learned to check what fungicide contains.
Cease adds are BS scam that it is better than Serenade.

I cannot buy any of those listed here any where I have found in Minnesota any more, at least at a affordable price
 so I have been buying online now for over a decade.
I do, do, a long internet search to see who has the best price -- (On occasion after finding nothing, I will go one page deeper in a search, and then find one ten or more dollars cheaper, including shipping, but companies merging or simply be bought out, is reducing that fact) --

I am listing Seven Springs here because they have the greatest selection of Bio-fungicides and show what is out there if one can afford it.; I have done business with them , but still shop around.
Howler , which is listed on page 2 looks to be the best , for the price:  https://www.7springsfarm.com/collections/disease-biological?page=2&grid_list=grid-view

But this place has the same item with free shipping:  https://www.domyown.com/howler-fungicide-p-17876.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=surfaces-across-google&utm_term=25947&srsltid=AfmBOoqir36FNlRx-7P1VRltg6q1oqZCeDLcnVKtGS_8GTktH4jCRteKaTs&sub_id=25947

[ironglow]

Maters are my thing also.  I don't plant as I used to, since onbe year I had 40 different plants oif 22 varieties..just trying them all..  Since I am in a
  cool zone, I must have started plants to start with.  Eighty to ninety day varieties are out..
 
    I did buy some seeds for the "Fourth-of-july" variety (49 days) and will look for some "Early Girl' plants.  One favorite of mine is the original
   "Goliath" hybrid..a great , large tomato with super resistance bred in.

  I should be able to get some good plants, since I can think of 3-4 plant starting nurseries within 20 miles, as well as my Amish neighbors may well
  have some old time heritage varieties I can get.

[mcbammer]

I have used Serenade, Sonata, Actinovate and Oxidate for rose , tomato and other vegetable disease control with great success for years.
Actinovate and Oxidate are EXPENSIVE, but are the most efficient.
I rotate because the pathogens can get immune if they are hit with the same product over and over and over.

These actually kill the pathogens so if a disease is hit, they will stop it, and they do work well.
Daconil is not designed to kill, but to prevent; once it is there, Daconil does not work.

  Nurseries use Oxidate in their greenhouses ,  powerful stuff ,  I've used it . It will take the hide off your hands if you get it on them.