What Is Antisemitism?

[darkgael]

“that we will
   have plenty to do, plenty of satisfying and rewarding things to do during that time.”
During that time? Eternity has no time.
Note: As much as you believe it, scripture is not evidence.

[Lloyd Smale]

wheres your evidence that disproves it. every year we find more factual evidence that whats in the bible actually happened. little to any of it has been factually disproved. its kind of like near death experiences. to many happen to disprove it and all scientists have is speculation. no facts. one things for sure if your right we both have the same end. we become worm food. if im right i have a chance to go to heaven because i believe. you? its either hell or worm food. pretty much a no brainer if you ask me.

[darkgael]

“ wheres your evidence that disproves it. every year we find more factual evidence that whats in the bible actually happened. little to any of it has been factually disproved. its kind of like near death experiences. to many happen to disprove it and all scientists have is speculation. no facts. “

You seem to be saying that because some things in scripture are true that it is all true. Scientists have nothing to do with the truth or falsity of Biblical events. Take Moses and the burning bush. Did that really happen? There is no evidence that it not happen. There is no evidence that it did. Faith makes the difference.

[Dee]

Scientists have nothing to do with the truth or falsity of Biblical events. Take Moses and the burning bush. Did that really happen? There is no evidence that it not happen. There is no evidence that it did. Faith makes the difference.

Faith in God obviously unsettles you, as you spend a lot of time here trying to dispel it. Atheism is a religion. A religion of doubt, and disbelief in everything but ones self. Your god (little g), is yourself.

[darkgael]

Whether atheism is a religion has been the subject of many discussions. Atheism is simply not  believing that there are any gods, not just yours.
A religion? Is not playing baseball a sport?

[Dee]

Whether atheism is a religion has been the subject of many discussions. Atheism is simply not  believing that there are any gods, not just yours.
A religion? Is not playing baseball a sport?

Keep telling yourself that all the way to your final hour. It'll give you comfort. 

[ironglow]

  DG...
   Prophesy alone proves much for those who allow it to speak to them.  One stark, undeniable event which proves that God provided knowledge
   to the writers of scripture..

  In the year 70 AD, Jerusalem was destroyed..and the Jews dispersed across the known world. Many were slaughtered while the rest were driven from Jerusalem and most of Judea..  God predicted that this event would happen, in several places in the OT.

  For instance; in the book of Amos  chapter 9, we see that God predicts their destruction and diaspora in verses 1-10.  Then, in vs 11 - 15 He assures the Jews that at some time in the distant future, they will be restored to their promised land..and it will be more productive and dynamic than ever..

    ..And here is a clue for the future..from vs 15;

   " I will plant them in their land,
And no longer shall they be pulled up
From the land I have given them,”
Says the Lord your God."

   Now, you are an educated man; can you name me another people whose nation was destroyed and the people either slaughtered or driven to exile over the known world..then after 2 millennium, regathered in their old hoimeland, reinvigorated their former language, customs and faith, and brought their former homeland to an even greater productivity and abundance than ever, at their now 3500 year existence?

    Keep in mind, this is only one of the miracles predicted by writers listening and writing as God directed them.

  In (1 Corinthians 13)  Paul, writing under inspiration says;

    9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known.

13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

   Some prefer to juxtapose science as opposed to God..  ..But have you studied the spiritual aspect as diligently as you have studied the scientific side?

  Not wanting to sound like a scriptural snob, yet I feel obliged to mention that unless one does accept God by faith, the whole truth of the Bible will not be fully opened to him. The real depths of scripture are spiritually discerned.

   
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1 Corinthians 2:14)

[Dee]

 

   
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (1 Corinthians 2:14)

I believe dg has been given this information on numerous occasions.

So, PROVERBS 29 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Antisemitism.

Darkgaels salvation rabbit escaped years ago. Darkgael enjoys the attention of being the resident atheist. It diverts the conversation off the  topic, while giving him the chance to call Christianity out as mythology piece by piece. He claims innocence but, but Gods' Word obviously unsettles him, as he never  passes opportunities to deny the validity of scripture and cast doubt.

darkgael, Madeline Murray O'hare, and all other atheists have an agenda that is,  or should be well known. Debate,  debate,  debate. Cast doubts, and question all Christianity.

[ironglow]

...But it is never too late to turn one's life around !

   Addressing "antisemitism"...  As I said earlier, technically..antisemitism is a prejudice against those whose origins are among those of the Semite
   language group..  Roughly Abrahamic peoples.

  Today however, it is most often used to describe hatred of those of Jewish heritage.  This hatred can be traced back to the enemies the Jews faced as  they took possession of their "promised Land'.. roughly, 3500 years ago..

  According to the Bible, these are the enemies they faced, which basically make up the Arab (Islamic) nations of today.

    These nations include the Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Jebusites, Hivites, Girgashites, Perizzites, Philistines, and the Amalekites

  Others who ntake up the cause against Jews, are simply falling for the 3500 year old propaganda put out by their enemies.  Surely, if those students at Harvard, Columbia etc. were to  learn their history, they may avoid such pitfalls.

   ..A simple case of not being as bright as they think they are... but still running off at the mouth !

[Dee]

...But it is never too late to turn one's life around !

And none are so blind as those who will not see

[Lloyd Smale]

only people God will treat worse than non-believers are non-believers that cant keep it to themselves and crave attention about their misguided opinions. guess i kind of look at it like gays, keep it in thr privacy of your home and i could give a crap. but shove it down my throat or pretend to talk like one in public then i have no mercy if you get confronted or worse. nobody cares that your gay and nobody cares you dont believe in God or the fact youll rot or burn. posting that trash here is like posting liberal bs. you dont belong and nobody wants you here

[darkgael]

“ you dont belong and nobody wants you here”
Maybe so. In any case, I have as much right to be here as anyone.
You? You just want people who agree with you.
 “Atta boy, Lloyd! You tell’m. No other points of view. Just agreement. Besides, people who have different opinions make me uncomfortable .”

[ironglow]

  Hey guys, DG has been here for years, let's show some solicitude..  So we disagree about a couple things, isn't that what dialog is all about ?

   DG is willing to discuss...which is far more than some will do, so why not let him have his say ?

  He has acted as a gentleman, and GBO doesn't need to have members drift away.

[Dee]

  Hey guys, DG has been here for years, let's show some solicitude..  So we disagree about a couple things, isn't that what dialog is all about ?

   DG is willing to discuss...which is far more than some will do, so why not let him have his say ?

  He has acted as a gentleman, and GBO doesn't need to have members drift away.

I don't think dg is doing anything other than promoting his own personal agenda. Which is exactly what everyone else is doing.
His disingenuous excuses and denials of why he denies the existence of God don't annoy me either. He's who he is. I take his "spiritual philosophy" with a grain of salt. Just as he does mine.

[Lloyd Smale]

dont cry it makes you look even farther left :'(

“ you dont belong and nobody wants you here”
Maybe so. In any case, I have as much right to be here as anyone.
You? You just want people who agree with you.
 “Atta boy, Lloyd! You tell’m. No other points of view. Just agreement. Besides, people who have different opinions make me uncomfortable .”

[Lloyd Smale]

doing it here about like a gay couple walking into a baptist church and french kissing in front of the congregation. nothing illegal and theyre just showing their opinion in your face. would you stand for that?? where do you draw a line?? this forum is 99 percent conservative and christain. even guzzi was at least Christian. boggles my mind why he even came here in the first place! coddling is just what he wants. i tell it like it is and wont pull punches unless bill tells me not to. so if he cant handle the heat he can cry to bill.

  Hey guys, DG has been here for years, let's show some solicitude..  So we disagree about a couple things, isn't that what dialog is all about ?

   DG is willing to discuss...which is far more than some will do, so why not let him have his say ?

  He has acted as a gentleman, and GBO doesn't need to have members drift away.

I don't think dg is doing anything other than promoting his own personal agenda. Which is exactly what everyone else is doing.
His disingenuous excuses and denials of why he denies the existence of God don't annoy me either. He's who he is. I take his "spiritual philosophy" with a grain of salt. Just as he does mine.

[Casull]

“that we will
   have plenty to do, plenty of satisfying and rewarding things to do during that time.”
During that time? Eternity has no time.
Note: As much as you believe it, scripture is not evidence.

You, like many confuse "proof" with "evidence".  Proof is a conclusion.  Evidence is what allows you reach proof.  The fact that it is written in scripture is most definitely evidence.  With enough evidence you can reach proof.  You can be short of proof and still have evidence.  How much weight you give the evidence is up to you.

[darkgael]

For something to be considered evidence it must be falsifiable.

[Casull]

For something to be considered evidence it must be falsifiable.

Where do you come up with this stuff?  Falsifiable concerns the disproving of scientific theories.  That is one small area of thinking, it does NOT encompass all that is evidence.  Evidence is so much more than that.  Whether God exists or not CANNOT be proven.  God is above and beyond all things that man can conceive.

[Dee]

Proverbs Chapter 26 verse 4: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

[Lloyd Smale]

we have a history book that is the most sold book in the hitory of man, you follow the opinions of other non believers.  non which can disprove a single thing thats in the bible. seems fact is squarely on our side

For something to be considered evidence it must be falsifiable.

[Lloyd Smale]

went to Good Friday mass this morning and said a prayer that God opens his eyes

[nw_hunter]

...But it is never too late to turn one's life around !

And none are so blind as those who will not see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kkAbH9LDm0

[ironglow]

doing it here about like a gay couple walking into a baptist church and french kissing in front of the congregation. nothing illegal and theyre just showing their opinion in your face. would you stand for that?? where do you draw a line?? this forum is 99 percent conservative and christain. even guzzi was at least Christian. boggles my mind why he even came here in the first place! coddling is just what he wants. i tell it like it is and wont pull punches unless bill tells me not to. so if he cant handle the heat he can cry to bill.

  Hey guys, DG has been here for years, let's show some solicitude..  So we disagree about a couple things, isn't that what dialog is all about ?

   DG is willing to discuss...which is far more than some will do, so why not let him have his say ?

  He has acted as a gentleman, and GBO doesn't need to have members drift away.

I don't think dg is doing anything other than promoting his own personal agenda. Which is exactly what everyone else is doing.
His disingenuous excuses and denials of why he denies the existence of God don't annoy me either. He's who he is. I take his "spiritual philosophy" with a grain of salt. Just as he does mine.

  Golly Lloyd... I can understand your being upset..but being abrupt;  this is not a Baptist Church, and DG has said nothing about gay....

  Let him speak..then counter with your own reply..part of the "fun" in adverse dialog.

[ironglow]

went to Good Friday mass this morning and said a prayer that God opens his eyes

  Way to go, Lloyd..

[ironglow]

For something to be considered evidence it must be falsifiable.

  Of course, I cannot PROVE that Abraham Lincoln ever existed, but evidence indicates he did.  We canmot prove that the "big bang" occurred, but evidence shows that it did. 

   Unbelievers cannot prove that evolution took place..and evidence is often showing otherwise.

  From Cambridge dictionary;

    Meaning of falsifiable in English
 
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able to be proved to be false:
a falsifiable hypothesis
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    We have been talking scriptural evidence here, you seem firmly affixed to the notion that the Bible is not accurate in it's assertions, while most of us stridently disagree.

  So, how do you prove it to be false ?

   

[Lloyd Smale]

sorry but i detest liberals, theyve done their best to destroy everything good about this country and will get no slack from me

doing it here about like a gay couple walking into a baptist church and french kissing in front of the congregation. nothing illegal and theyre just showing their opinion in your face. would you stand for that?? where do you draw a line?? this forum is 99 percent conservative and christain. even guzzi was at least Christian. boggles my mind why he even came here in the first place! coddling is just what he wants. i tell it like it is and wont pull punches unless bill tells me not to. so if he cant handle the heat he can cry to bill.

  Hey guys, DG has been here for years, let's show some solicitude..  So we disagree about a couple things, isn't that what dialog is all about ?

   DG is willing to discuss...which is far more than some will do, so why not let him have his say ?

  He has acted as a gentleman, and GBO doesn't need to have members drift away.

I don't think dg is doing anything other than promoting his own personal agenda. Which is exactly what everyone else is doing.
His disingenuous excuses and denials of why he denies the existence of God don't annoy me either. He's who he is. I take his "spiritual philosophy" with a grain of salt. Just as he does mine.

  Golly Lloyd... I can understand your being upset..but being abrupt;  this is not a Baptist Church, and DG has said nothing about gay....

  Let him speak..then counter with your own reply..part of the "fun" in adverse dialog.

[ironglow]

From Lloyd;
   
   " Sorry but i detest liberals, theyve done their best to destroy everything good about this country and will get no slack from me."

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

   You have a very valid point there, Lloyd..  If we are nothing more than blobs of cytoplasm or protoplasm, and the entire existence is nothing but an
    "accident of nature", we can forget about such silly things as love, compassion, empathy or anything other than self-preservation..nd pleasing our
  own urges toward self satisfaction..

  Say; that being said, it sounds much like those mobs who are disgracing our streets and soiling oiur gathering places..

[nw_hunter]

Well, getting back to ...What is antisemitism, and are people anti sematic if they say something negative about the Jewish race or religion? Are we anti-Christian if we're Jewish, and say anything negative about them because they have different beliefs? Like believing Jesus is the Son of God? Just because we have different beliefs doesn't necessarily mean we hate each other. And, I don't believe a Jew or any other person should be allowed dual citizenship. I pledge allegiance to the Flag of my homeland. Not Homelands! (Remember...A friendly country today, can be the enemy tomorrow.) Does this make me a Jew hater?  It looks to me like a large faction in The good old USA are trying to stifle freedom of speech by taking this anti semitic thing to far. I agree with IG. Without DG here, we would only have ourselves to fuss and fight with. And believe you me, it will happen sooner than later. I noticed that the late Rush Limbaugh's ratings fell drastically when a Republican was in office. Without Liberals we would have never heard of him. The Democrats made him famous!